I don't know if you guys realize, but Head Hunters was the beneficiary of two Freebie wins last year.

Seems like a rule that needs to be changed.

First of all Einstein, I was asked per one member of this league. A member who has been in this league from its inception. Perhaps if you learned to READ you would have seen that.

Second of all, regardless of my personal convictions, if the league as a majority wants the change, I will change it. That simple.

lastly, it does not change the fact it allows for lazy owners. You can sugar coat it all you want, and continue to stick you head in the sand...it is what it is. If YOU don't like.....that TOO is too bad.

Again, if the vote warrents change...the rule will change. Simple as that.

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Finally, someone attempting a logical argument. Thank you.

Now, yes, if you don't prepare in the draft, and ONLY pick one in those positions..then that could happen. My point was, if you know going into the draft you have to address it up front....it forces you to make sure you get everyone you want...including depth for byes. Thus, more challenging. See?

But this assumes that an owner WILL do this. Last year was the ONLY year in seven this has come up. My point remains that if you prepare in the draft accordingly...this won't happen.

Now to last years cases.

First you had an owner who made THAT choice. He only drafted one def. HE didn't get it in in time...and couldn't put in a legit lineup.

the second, the owner placed a lineup in...and didn't pick a Qb. It told him that...and he missed it. It was clearly his error...not the bye issues.

Regardless....the vote is 8 for, which is majority...so the rule will change.

Firstly do not ever talk to me this way again - in no way did I deserve this.

Frankly, I've never shown this much disrespect for you, or any disrespect for that matter, and this post was completley unwarranted.

I do not appreciate being talked to like I'm a child and, honestly, what you've shown here is a complete lack of class.

This is without doubt the most ridiculous thing that I've read while on these boards. A poll was setup to determine whether or not to keep or change a rule and this is how you go about arguing your point, name calling?

Honestly, I expected more from you.

for the record....this was uncalled for. So for that I will appologize to you, and to the rest of the league.

However, Mr. Pot....you started with your post...I can quote it if you like...but won't as it is time to put this issue to bed.

The frustrating thing to me is this league was founded on these issues. We intended this to be a challenging league. Forcing two rbs starters, plus three wrs..plus a TE...no flex, and you have to cover byes made this one of the hardest leagues I was in. It was a great challenge. I think this makes things too easy...I hope I am wrong...but it doesn't matter...as the league has voted.

Majority has voted and the rule is changed. Only penalty now for bye players is a 0.

I'm not sure I buy into the old rule translating into making the league more challenging. I've only seen it done really a handful of times on purpose, most times it's best to pickup someone to fill in but sometimes it's better to take the 0. I think this is a completely different issue than dealing with deadbeat owners. If there is a problem with an owner and his/her participation then they should be ejected and find someone who is going to see the season through.

Granted. And it will just have to be watched. I am not too overly worried about deadbeat owners....most of the folks here I am in other leagues with...so all should be good.


tis what it tis

Damn, I missed the vote.....


And the fireworks

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well, i wish you'd been here. you coulda talked some sense into those silly boys, fighting and stuff

you could come spank me if it makes you feel better. I know I would like it.

Hooo Ahhh


Chicks with whips

Forgot we changed this rule. Here it is for reminders

I dont know if the ruling would change, but with new owners here I think it would be worth putting this to a vote again.

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Too late now Sarge. Had I remembered I would have done so before the draft started. Best to leave as is now.

Yeah you make a point

So we can use players on bye in our lineups.....

Don't see much need with 9 bench positions but WTF

I know, I know...it was a long discussion...as you can see. We just move on and let be.

We can always raise it again after season is over.

You raise an excellent point though. If we really do want to keep this rule in place, we may want to reduce the rosters some...to make more FA moves possible and shorten the draft. That could allow us to move the draft later and closer to the season

NO!

What makes your league so damn difficult is the rules set as they are right now, with the 18 rounds. To change those rules or make things easier on people would...well it would suck.

This, to me, is one of the last premier old school leagues out there. No PPR, no deep FA pool, just a difficult draft followed by a meatgrinder season. Winning this league is double tough.