Sports Outlaw Top 15 Pre Season Poll

Feel free to PM Me a vote people. The more voters I get, the better off we are.

Whats interesting is Ohio State sits at a solid #3, despite not getting one first place vote.

The early season tilt matching up our #1 USC and #3 Ohio State is going to be a bloody war.

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Texas Tech? Arizona State?

Texas Tech is getting love in the polls. They claim to have a defense up there now.

I remain unconvinced.

Arizona State is probably the second best team in the PAC10 at this point. Means it should translate to at least another 10 win year.

ASU has actually been legit at one point or another, but Tech? Every year, people get sucked in by their offense, predict great things, then they lose 4-5 games.

Sounds like they are getting sucked in again this season. I believe I gave them like a 14th place vote, nothing major, but Ive seen them as high as 8th in some polls.

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AP Top 25

1. USC (62) 0-0 1,622

2. LSU (2) 0-0 1,511

3. West Virginia (1) 0-0 1,396

4. Texas 0-0 1,375

5. Michigan 0-0 1,371

6. Florida 0-0 1,276

7. Wisconsin 0-0 1,192

8. Oklahoma 0-0 1,166

9. Virginia Tech 0-0 1,148

10. Louisville 0-0 1,031

11. Ohio State 0-0 876

12. California 0-0 790

13. Georgia 0-0 782

14. UCLA 0-0 605

15. Tennessee 0-0 571

16. Rutgers 0-0 560

17. Penn State 0-0 542

18. Auburn 0-0 519

19. Florida State 0-0 392

20. Nebraska 0-0 377

21. Arkansas 0-0 376

22. TCU 0-0 283

23. Hawaii 0-0 256

24. Boise State 0-0 187

25. Texas A&M 0-0 162

Others Receiving Votes Missouri 128, Georgia Tech 94, Boston College 75, Oregon 73, South Carolina 69, Miami (FL) 68, Alabama 66, Oregon State 42, Wake Forest 40, South Florida 28, Arizona State 17, Brigham Young 14, Southern Miss 12, Notre Dame 11, Virginia 7, Clemson 6, Oklahoma State 3, Texas Tech 2, Purdue 1, Houston 1, Kentucky 1, North Carolina State 1.

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USA Today Poll

1. USC (45) 0-0 1,481

2. LSU (4) 0-0 1,372

3. Florida (9) 0-0 1,278

4. Texas 0-0 1,231

5. Michigan (2) 0-0 1,218

6. West Virginia 0-0 1,205

7. Wisconsin 0-0 1,114

8. Oklahoma 0-0 1,026

9. Virginia Tech 0-0 1,005

10. Ohio State 0-0 919

11. Louisville 0-0 836

12. California 0-0 763

13. Georgia 0-0 604

14. Auburn 0-0 595

15. Tennessee 0-0 583

16. Rutgers 0-0 466

17. UCLA 0-0 454

18. Penn State 0-0 440

19. Nebraska 0-0 388

20. Arkansas 0-0 360

21. Florida State 0-0 301

22. TCU 0-0 233

23. Boise State 0-0 222

24. Hawaii 0-0 214

25. Texas A&M 0-0 209

Others Receiving Votes Boston College 150, Georgia Tech 150, Miami (FL) 91, Notre Dame 90, South Carolina 90, Wake Forest 71, Missouri 58, Oregon State 52, Brigham Young 47, Clemson 30, Oregon 30, South Florida 26, Texas Tech 20, Alabama 16, Oklahoma State 15, Southern Miss 14, Iowa 12, Kansas State 8, Memphis 5, Houston 4, Arizona 1, Duke 1, Kentucky 1, Washington State 1.

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AP Top 25

1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,620

2. Georgia (3) 11-2 1,515

3. USC (1) 11-2 1,500

4. Missouri 12-2 1,347

5. Ohio State 11-2 1,346

6. West Virginia 11-2 1,342

7. Kansas (1) 12-1 1,303

8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,139

9. Virginia Tech 11-3 1,096

10. Texas 10-3 962

10. Boston College 11-3 962

12. Tennessee 10-4 904

13. Florida 9-4 685

14. Brigham Young 11-2 654

15. Auburn 9-4 648

16. Arizona State 10-3 587

17. Cincinnati 10-3 566

18. Michigan 9-4 508

19. Hawaii 12-1 460

20. Illinois 9-4 443

21. Clemson 9-4 353

22. Texas Tech 9-4 308

23. Oregon 9-4 253

24. Wisconsin 9-4 202

25. Oregon State 9-4 110

Others Receiving Votes Virginia 66, Penn State 61, Kentucky 57, Wake Forest 53, Boise State 25, Arkansas 13, Utah 9, Mississippi State 7, Appalachian State 5, South Florida 5, Tulsa 4, Connecticut 3, Air Force 2, Rutgers 2.Dropped From Rankings Virginia 21, South Florida 23, Boise State 24, Arkansas 25.

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USA Today Poll

1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,500

2. USC 11-2 1,380

3. Georgia 11-2 1,370

4. Ohio State 11-2 1,287

5. Missouri 12-2 1,241

6. West Virginia 11-2 1,239

7. Kansas 12-1 1,217

8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,016

9. Virginia Tech 11-3 979

10. Texas 10-3 924

11. Boston College 11-3 898

12. Tennessee 10-4 826

13. Arizona State 10-3 635

14. Auburn 9-4 624

14. Brigham Young 11-2 624

16. Florida 9-4 567

17. Hawaii 12-1 427

18. Illinois 9-4 416

19. Michigan 9-4 413

20. Cincinnati 10-3 376

21. Wisconsin 9-4 333

22. Clemson 9-4 319

23. Texas Tech 9-4 242

24. Oregon 9-4 192

25. Penn State 9-4 127

Others Receiving Votes Oregon State 108, Virginia 71, Wake Forest 53, Boise State 33, Fresno State 11, Kentucky 11, California 8, Connecticut 8, Mississippi State 7, South Florida 6, Tulsa 5, UCF 4, Utah 2, Arkansas 1.Dropped From Rankings Virginia 20, Boise State 22, Arkansas 24, South Florida 25.

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Those make me feel a little better. Ive been reading alot of local stuff here ranking these guys higher than I thought they should be.

Ive even seen some picks of Tech winning the conference and or crashing the BCS. As stated, I dont see it, but someone smokes that Red Raider doobie every year.

I see LSU is sitting at #7. I guess I look at these things differently. LSU is the defending champion. No one has beaten them yet. How did they lose the top spot? Spring practice? "Expert" opinions?

For me, they're #1 until someone beats them. Do I think someone will? Yes, but it hasn't happened yet so they're still #1 in my book.

I've always done it that way since I started participating in these things. The champ is the champ until they lose.

That's how I almost always do it too -- you finish at #1, you start there the next year. But not in LSU's case for me. A, they are not a true national champion to me. They lost two games and didn't have to play the best teams to "win the title." No other national champ has ever lost two games. And B, they lost like three quarters of their team, including both QBs, their top WR, and just about every significant defensive playmaker. I'm sure they recruit well, but I'm not giving that team the benefit of the doubt.

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They followed the system and won the title. It's not their fault that the system is pretty damn silly. As for "the benefit of the doubt" isn't that how people are ranking teams AHEAD of LSU at this point? It's not as if any of them have defeated the Tigers. No one has played a game since LSU won the BCS title.

It comes down to how one looks at the polls. I don't care for them, but as long as they're part of the equation I'll view them as a point in time. Where are the teams NOW, based on performance, not where I think they'll end up later.

I don't think LSU will win the NC game again this year, but until they actually lose I can't rank anyone ahead of them based on performance. The only way I can put someone ahead of them, at this point, is to rely purely on speculation.

Well yes obviously. I think that's kind of the point.

Isn't that what pre-season polls are all about?

I didn't rank LSU high because they've lost alot and they're going to be inexperienced at alot of positions.

For that matter, if the champ is the champ until they lose, shouldn't we all begin the season with Ohio State at #2 in our rankings? I mean, they're the two time defending #2 champ and all. It's their spot to lose at this point.