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Old 10-18-2006, 06:19 AM   #1
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UM Hurricanes: Say Hello To The Bad Guy

October 17, 2006

Say Hello To The Bad Guy

"Whattaya lookin' at? You're all a bunch of [hypocrites]. You know why? Cause you don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your finger and say 'that's the bad guy.'

"So, what dat make you? Good? You're not good; you just know how to hide. Howda lie! Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth, even when I lie. So say goodnight to the bad guy. Come on, the last time you gonna see a bad guy like this, let me tell ya."

Those are the infamous words of Scarfaces' Tony Montana, the world's most notorious bad guy. It's funny how they are perfectly fitting for the bad boys of college football.

Tony Montana never tried to clean up his image after pillaging the streets of Miami, so unlike the Miami Hurricanes he was never subjected to the hypocrisy UM is presently being bombarded with.

Looking down on this team because of their involvement in Saturday's brawl is perfect acceptable. But for the entire nation to portray these Hurricanes as a team full of thugs is not. While some of the things they did during Saturday's melee with Florida International was thuggish, and totally unacceptable, thugs they are not. Not even close.

Are they guilty of charging the field to fight FIU's players after seeing their holder and backup quarterback get body slammed? They are.
Are some players guilty of getting caught on video committing some offenses that would be considered heinous? They certainly are.

But are they the thugs and outlaws the national media would like to portray UM to be? Not even close.

Butch Davis, Larry Coker and Paul Dee have done such a good job of cleaning up the program the past decade most of the typical Hurricane bravado is no longer genuine. As a matter of fact, this is a team is filled with more choir boys than trouble makers. But that old Miami image CAN'T be shaken, and as I've said before I have no idea why the school even tries.

I've always wondered why UM's athletic department was so overly conscious about the image it portrays, and now I've finally discovered the answer. It's because an entire school now knows what it's like to be a black man in American society, where people have a preconceived perception of U before they get a clue who you even are, and are threatened by U.

The truth is there's nothing UM can ever do that will change it, and Saturday's melee is proof of that considering how most of the nation didn't take a look at all the fact before they showed some prejudice. I'm not saying the Hurricanes don't deserve to be criticized, but the program doesn't deserve the amount of scrutiny it has received since Saturday by talking heads who don't even know what F.I.U. stands for, and probably didn't even mention they were involved in the melee, much less started it.

But truth is, it doesn't matter because college football already knows who it's Bad Boy is, and it's the Hurricanes, the team America loves to hate.
"Come on, make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through; you better get outta his way!"

Thanks for allowing me to put this all in perspective Tony, and you too Canealmighty [the blogger] for the inspiration.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:43 AM   #2
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All this blogger here has done is try to enforce racism with this incident, and I think it is pretty pathetic. Those that dislike Miami are going to dislike Miami no matter what the school does. They will look for any reason to talk down about the school. That is not the entire college football fan base though.

And to call related the school to being a "black man in society" is only going to reinforce the dislike that many have for the school.

As you can see in this blog, it is the the Miami fan-base that constantly reinforces everyone's dislike for Miami, not the school itself. They look for every opportunity available to use this "us against the world mentality".
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:10 PM   #3
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Wow, that's pretty racist. That's pretty much saying many people hate African Americans, and the entire blog is unjust. Who allows people to write this crap?

Sounds like we have TO2 over here..in school form.
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....as if there's no good reason to not like Miami.
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Who would hate Miami? They don't do anything wrong..

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Who would hate Miami? They don't do anything wrong..

They dont...they just win.
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Haha..when? Not so much this season as usual.

You must be an avid follower of that school.
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Haha..when? Not so much this season as usual.

You must be an avid follower of that school.

5 in 20...can you do better than that?
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Zepp, people will like and dislike Miami based on the performance of the players on the field. The most recent episode was not handled well by the coaches or players, or referees, as it was allowed to get completely out of hand. I am not in position to say who started the incident as I was not there, but this is not the first such incident involving this team, this year. Going into an opposing team's stadium, disrespecting the logo on the field and then losing the game shows that they really don't have much standing. The Louisville players handled the situation on the field and little was said about it afterward -- at least publically.
5 championships in 20 seasons is a very good outcome, but how many coaches have the Hurricanes gone through in that period? If the school is that good, why don't coaches stay there?
The announcer of the most recent game incident was fired for his comments, which were totally out of hand. Had he said something like "OK guys, you've embarrassed yourselves and your school enough now -- lets get back to some football.", he'd still be working for Comcast SE. Jim Rome played the soundbite, and he sounded like a thug by saying that he wanted to "get on the elevator and go down to the field to join in".
Do I respect the University of Miami football program? Yes. Do I like the tactics they use? No, if this is any indication.
Larry Coker has at least done something about the incident. His suspensions of 13 of his players says that he is not trying to sweep the incident under the carpet. As I said before, if he hadn't done something, the NCAA would have stepped in and no one wants to see that.
As to potential rule changes, I'd like to see anyone that leaves the bench to enter an on-field situation automatically suspended for the next game and the instigators of the fight be suspended for at least one game.
I understand the emotions that cause incidents on the field, but cooler heads must prevail.
To put this incident in racial terms is unconscionable.
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The one thing that bugs me about this whole incident is how it is considered so bad for Miami to "disrespect" the other teams logo.

In Junior High and High School, teams would sneak in and steal other teams mascots or flags, it has gone on for years and was just considered "fun"

In the NFL, Terrell Owens standing on the Star on national television was considered "funny" by all non-Cowboys fans.

I don't even think the logo should be an issue in this story.
And at the same time, neither should race. Why a guy wants to turn this into a racial issue is beyond me.
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The one thing that bugs me about this whole incident is how it is considered so bad for Miami to "disrespect" the other teams logo.

In Junior High and High School, teams would sneak in and steal other teams mascots or flags, it has gone on for years and was just considered "fun"

In the NFL, Terrell Owens standing on the Star on national television was considered "funny" by all non-Cowboys fans.

I don't even think the logo should be an issue in this story.
And at the same time, neither should race. Why a guy wants to turn this into a racial issue is beyond me.
great point.

Back home we have a team in Rock Island and there mascot was a rock. And every freakin homecoming weither it was our homecoming another team in the conference homecoming or there homecoming that rock would get messed up!!

And when all else fails we must through in the race card. And it makes me sick. Because when something that really happens that is racist then people are going to start ignoring if they haven't already.
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Another dope plays the race card.....

Surprise! It's another poor misunderstood Miami fan. You and the rest of the Miami apologists ought to step back and figure out why you have to do all the apologizing, instead of spouting the racist BS.

Your beloved U makes headlines for thuggish behavior and guys like you can't understand why the rest of the world perceives Miami as a bunch of thugs?

Oh, yeah, FIU started it this time; your thug-ass alumni broadcasters are misunderstood; everybody else is a bunch of haters; poor Miami is treated like a black man. Get real.

5 in 20 is great - too bad this record has been overshadowed by criminal antics.
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5 in 20...can you do better than that?
TP said it..sure 5 in 20 is damn good, but with the extremely talented teams they've had, you'd think they could show more class when their team isn't stacked and when they're facing an abysmal team on a down year.
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TP said it..sure 5 in 20 is damn good, but with the extremely talented teams they've had, you'd think they could show more class when their team isn't stacked and when they're facing an abysmal team on a down year.

Fuck class...we are here to kick your ass plain and simple. Class is for losers.
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Another dope plays the race card.....
Sorry if you cant accept the truth.
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Surprise! It's another poor misunderstood Miami fan. You and the rest of the Miami apologists ought to step back and figure out why you have to do all the apologizing, instead of spouting the racist BS.
I dont think we shouldve apologized for anything.
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Your beloved U makes headlines for thuggish behavior and guys like you can't understand why the rest of the world perceives Miami as a bunch of thugs?
Thuggish behavior is code word for N**ger behavior...and thats the point Omar Kelly is trying to make.
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Oh, yeah, FIU started it this time; your thug-ass alumni broadcasters are misunderstood; everybody else is a bunch of haters; poor Miami is treated like a black man. Get real.
Thats right finally glad you get it.
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5 in 20 is great - too bad this record has been overshadowed by criminal antics.
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Closing this up. Anyone who regularly posts in this forum has already given their opinions, nothing of value can be added at this point pertaining to college football.
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