Donte' Stallworth expected to be charged with DUI manslaughter

Cooley Cadets

I guess if any possibility to avoid obtaining your full pound of flesh is a loophole. There is a reason why many of them are there.

I have not excused anything but I have also not seen anything in the articles I have read or in any of the posts here evidence to support the assumption you are willing to make, that Stallworth was at fault or could have avoided the accident but for...

I would also suspect that the family got more than mere survival money. Not getting prison time does not equate with walking basically free. Thinking prison sentences for everyone is as big a crock as the picture being painted here.

Phicinfan

what pound of flesh? He killed a person. Don't you feel that deserves more than 30days in jail?

Well, since you have not READ it, you must be excusing it right? Can you seriously sit there and say had he not been out drinking all night, and instead been at home or driven home since he was legally intoxicated he could have prevented the accident? Do I seriously need to draw you this picture?

So what is the going rate in your opinion for the loss of a loved one Cooley?

Why is it wrong to want a representative prison sentance for a death?

Cooley Cadets

what pound of flesh? He killed a person. Don't you feel that deserves more than 30days in jail? He was involved in an auto accident where another person died. Are you claiming all accidents resulting in death warrant prison time?

Well, since you have not READ it, you must be excusing it right? Can you seriously sit there and say had he not been out drinking all night, and instead been at home or driven home since he was legally intoxicated he could have prevented the accident? If the evidence is not being reported I would think that would indicate it was not there. I am simply not willing to make some assumptions you appear comfortable making.

I am seriously sitting here saying his level of intoxication may not have been the cause of the accident.

So what is the going rate in your opinion for the loss of a loved one Cooley? I would imagine that would have to be determined on a case by case basis. Did I give you any impression I had an amount in mind?

Why is it wrong to want a representative prison sentance for a death? Because not every death has an applicable representative prison sentence.

Sgt John

[quote=Cooley Cadets;305639]what pound of flesh? He killed a person. Don't you feel that deserves more than 30days in jail? He was involved in an auto accident where another person died. Are you claiming all accidents resulting in death warrant prison time?[quote]

No Cooley, they dont. However, I have a hard time believing you didnt chew the same dirt at some point I still do today. To me, in this case, both parties were at fault, but one to a much greater extent simply by way of being intoxicated. I dont think Stallworth should do a dime, but I think 30 days given the intoxication factor in the accident is insufficient.

From what I hear the available evidence is out there, minus what i know your probably looking for, the accident report which would tell someone like you were or I am the factors you need to make your decision. If anyone knows somewhere the accident report is posted Id love to see it.

There is no price guys. Ive never met the survivors of a person killed in a car crash who would accept any amount of money in lieu of their family.

Now this is true, but I also think Phic needs to explain or reword this response.

Cooley Cadets

Why is the lump sum BS? I could see this argument if you presented something other than your opinion/insinuation that he was purchasing his justice.

Who do you think you are judging the victims family? If they filed a civil suit all they could accomplish is what the settlement involved. Nothing is going to fill the void left by Mr. Reyes death but to state they have tarnished his memory is very self centered and egotistical.

Cooley Cadets

To me, in this case, both parties were at fault, but one to a much greater extent simply by way of being intoxicated. I dont think Stallworth should do a dime, but I think 30 days given the intoxication factor in the accident is insufficient.

I can completely agree that both were at fault even though I will not go so far as to think I know enough to put Stallworth more or less at fault. I have no problem if more jail time is believed to be appropriate but I did not see enough to warrant a minimum 4 year sentence either.

There is no price guys. Ive never met the survivors of a person killed in a car crash who would accept any amount of money in lieu of their family.

$ vs the person should be a no brainer but since that is not possible a settlement is appropriate.

WesDawg

A drunken nightshift factory worker killed my grandpa, great aunt and great uncle at the same time when I was 13. Standard scenario. He t-boned them going about 60 after blowing through a 4-way intersection at EIGHT IN THE MORNING, their vehicle caught fire but was too twisted around for them to get out and they burned to death. Drunk guy escaped with bumps and bruises.
Obviously these details are different, but I can't give an unbiased opinion so I won't.

Cooley Cadets

Belated sympathy. It does appear rare for people to recognize when they are unable to remain objective. If you don't mind sharing, and it may be pertinent to this thread what did the drunk get at sentencing?

Phicinfan

No, I am saying though that if you purposely go and drive impaired...which he CHOSE to do. You them must accept the consequences. Had he NOT driven impaired, nor been out drinking to all hours of the night...this man would still be alive. Period. There is NO denying that.

My god, you are more naive then I gave you credit for. Cooley, there is a reason that states have set legal driving limits for acohol. Do you know why? Because of the increased accidents, and how it impairs a driver when they are that intoxicated. Now, again, as you continue to NOT answer. Can you not admit that had he NOT been drinking, or out all night...this would not have happened. It really IS that simple.

No, you felt he made enough reparations. I disagree. I want you to tell me what you feel a human life is worth..since you feel he paid enough.

You are correct. If you have a simple accident...there are no other penalties. But there is a reason the law has DUI manslaughter. It is because if you take a life in an accident where you are legally drunk, then that is considered making a choice, and thus you must face the punishment. HE made that choice...but is not paying the price. That simply is wrong.

WesDawg

Not sure man. I was 13.

It remained somewhat of a taboo subject with the family for quite some time because there were some legal loopholes utilized by the defendant's attornies and those of the company he worked for. (He had access to alcohol at his job, ironically)

One of the reasons we didn't talk much about it after the shock wore off is that my grandma was supposed to be in the truck with the other 3 but felt ill that morning and decided not to go.