Quantcast Wow, Suspensions to Pacman and Henry
Home Forum Articles Rankings Register Cheatsheets Waiver Wire Blogs Forum Spy S/O Sportsbook Fantasy Games Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools


Old 04-10-2007, 12:10 PM   #1
Outlaw
 
Arctic Dawgs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver Island B.C.
Posts: 1,435
vCash: 201144
Donate
Send a message via AIM to Arctic Dawgs
Wow, Suspensions to Pacman and Henry

Pacman - 1 year ( can apply after 10 Games)
Henry - 8 games

as/per NFL Network
Arctic Dawgs is offline   Reply With Quote
Welcome to The The Sports Outlaw.

You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

As soon as you register, this box and ad will disappear.

Old 04-10-2007, 12:23 PM   #2
Hope comes with batteries
Forum Leader
 
nicholete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,364
vCash: 7754013
Donate
Send a message via AIM to nicholete Send a message via Yahoo to nicholete
Just heard this on ESPN. I didn't think he would be that much but hey its time to show these guys they can't do whatever they want anymore.
nicholete is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 12:33 PM   #3
Who Me?
Admin
 
Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 16,090
vCash: 59047993
Donate
Blog Entries: 28
Send a message via AIM to Miller
Here are the conditions of the suspensions.

I'm glad to see him come down like this. Hopefully this will be a message to ALL players that this shit won't be tollerated.




Quote:
The specific conditions that apply to Jones' suspension include the following:
  • He must have no further adverse involvement with law enforcement.
  • He must fully cooperate with all required counseling, education, and treatment assigned under league or court-ordered programs.
  • He must adhere to the restrictions on his activities that have been agreed to by he and the Titans.
  • He may not be at the Titans' facility through May 31 and may not participate in any practices or organized workouts during the term of the suspension. Beginning June 1, he must visit the team facility once each week to meet with the team's player development director. Also, beginning June 1, he is permitted to spend one day a week at the team facility for conditioning, film study, and other similar activities.
  • In conjunction with the team's player development director and other professionals working with him, Jones must develop with the Titans a structured program of community service or other activity. This program must be submitted to the league office for review and approval.

Quote:
Henry will be reinstated after the Bengals' eighth regular-season game if he meets certain conditions during his suspension that will be monitored closely by the Bengals and the NFL. Those conditions include the following:
  • He must have no further adverse involvement with law enforcement.
  • He must fully cooperate with all required counseling, education, and treatment assigned to him under league programs.
  • He is eligible to be at the Bengals' facilities during the rest of the offseason for customary activities and he must meet weekly with the team's player development director.
  • If he fully complies with all other conditions, he may participate in the Bengals' training camp and preseason games.
  • During the regular season, he is permitted to be at the Bengals' facility for team meetings and must meet weekly with the team's player development director, but he may not attend or participate in practice.
  • He must fully comply with all conditions imposed on him by any court, including requirements of community service.
Miller is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #4
Outlaw
 
Arctic Dawgs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver Island B.C.
Posts: 1,435
vCash: 201144
Donate
Send a message via AIM to Arctic Dawgs
If Pacman complies fully and gets reinstated after 10 for the final 6 games, it will count as a full season in regards to FA status years
Arctic Dawgs is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 01:15 PM   #5
who me?
Admin
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: L.A. (Lower Arkansas)
Posts: 30,004
vCash: 14556857
Donate
Blog Entries: 18
Now to see how decisions like this affect future negotiations between the players and the league. I love seeing the league take a stronger stance toward things like this, but I do think that this will create a bit of separation between the players and the league.
Mike is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 01:45 PM   #6
Who Me?
Admin
 
Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 16,090
vCash: 59047993
Donate
Blog Entries: 28
Send a message via AIM to Miller
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Dawgs View Post
If Pacman complies fully and gets reinstated after 10 for the final 6 games, it will count as a full season in regards to FA status years
He's gone for the year, there will be no reinstatement after week 10 IMO.
Miller is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 03:31 PM   #7
Outlaw
 
titansfan484's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 84
vCash: 33
Donate
I honestly can't believe that Pac got an entire year suspension. I was guessing around 4 games or so. Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything yet. Hell, Tank Johnson's sitting in jail right now and he didn't get any kind of suspension.
titansfan484 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 03:54 PM   #8
Hope comes with batteries
Forum Leader
 
nicholete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,364
vCash: 7754013
Donate
Send a message via AIM to nicholete Send a message via Yahoo to nicholete
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
I honestly can't believe that Pac got an entire year suspension. I was guessing around 4 games or so. Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything yet. Hell, Tank Johnson's sitting in jail right now and he didn't get any kind of suspension.
Oh don't worry Tank will get his when he is out of jail. And everyone already thinks it will be a year as well.
nicholete is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 03:58 PM   #9
who me?
Admin
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: L.A. (Lower Arkansas)
Posts: 30,004
vCash: 14556857
Donate
Blog Entries: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
I honestly can't believe that Pac got an entire year suspension. I was guessing around 4 games or so. Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything yet. Hell, Tank Johnson's sitting in jail right now and he didn't get any kind of suspension.
I was shocked as well to see him get a year. I doubt we have heard the end of this though.
Mike is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 04:49 PM   #10
Houston Texans Analyst
Premium Member
 
Texans_Chick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 481
vCash: 19055
Donate
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
I honestly can't believe that Pac got an entire year suspension. I was guessing around 4 games or so. Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything yet. Hell, Tank Johnson's sitting in jail right now and he didn't get any kind of suspension.
The thing that got PacMan in trouble was not reporting some of his arrests.

It is troubling, though, that the draconian punishment has come down on someone not convicted of anything. If you are a young flashy rich (some-large) guy (especially of color), it is easy to be unfairly targeted sometimes. The Fred Weary case is a good example--the Houston Police Department accused him of all sorts of awful things after they tasered him twice--but turns out that as more evidence came out, it looked like the arrest and tasering may have been unjustified. That case, and a few other high profile taserings in Houston have caused the city to rethink their use of Tasers.

Gee, what is the point of being a young rich guy if you can't go to clubs and tata bars and worry about maybe being arrested?


All that being said, couldn't have happened to a better guy at least for those of us in division. PacMan is a difference maker and this suspension is non-good for them.
Texans_Chick is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 05:04 PM   #11
Outlaw
 
titansfan484's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 84
vCash: 33
Donate
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texans_Chick View Post
The thing that got PacMan in trouble was not reporting some of his arrests.

It is troubling, though, that the draconian punishment has come down on someone not convicted of anything. If you are a young flashy rich (some-large) guy (especially of color), it is easy to be unfairly targeted sometimes. The Fred Weary case is a good example--the Houston Police Department accused him of all sorts of awful things after they tasered him twice--but turns out that as more evidence came out, it looked like the arrest and tasering may have been unjustified. That case, and a few other high profile taserings in Houston have caused the city to rethink their use of Tasers.

All that being said, couldn't have happened to a better guy at least for those of us in division. PacMan is a difference maker and this suspension is non-good for them.
Yeah, that's the thing that really bothers me about this whole thing, Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything. I mean, if some random Colts fan decided to accuse Vince Young of assault, and it turns out that he wasn't guilty at all in the first place, does that still mean that the NFL can suspend him because he was accused of something in the first place? I think the league got itself into a lot of hot water, because it seems like they suspended Pac in a completely arbitrary method.

Lol, and I bet that you are pretty happy that Pac's gone for the year...he's worth at least 2 or 3 wins a year with his playmaking ability. He can completely turn games around by himself, kind of like the Giants game last year with his interceptions and punt returns.
titansfan484 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 05:45 PM   #12
Who Me?
Admin
 
Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 16,090
vCash: 59047993
Donate
Blog Entries: 28
Send a message via AIM to Miller
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
Yeah, that's the thing that really bothers me about this whole thing, Pac hasn't even been convicted of anything. I mean, if some random Colts fan decided to accuse Vince Young of assault, and it turns out that he wasn't guilty at all in the first place, does that still mean that the NFL can suspend him because he was accused of something in the first place? I think the league got itself into a lot of hot water, because it seems like they suspended Pac in a completely arbitrary method.

Lol, and I bet that you are pretty happy that Pac's gone for the year...he's worth at least 2 or 3 wins a year with his playmaking ability. He can completely turn games around by himself, kind of like the Giants game last year with his interceptions and punt returns.
He's been in trouble with the law TEN times!!!! That is not a random accusation that may or may not be true! That is a trend there! Here is how I see it, if you were in Pac-Man shoes, and had been in the trouble you were in, would your employer wait till a judgement to shit can your ass?? I know mine would not!

I think Goodel did good today, even if it does hurt my favorite team. Since they take the power out of the teams hands, they need to act, and act they did today!

I was a bit suprised that the year was handed down right away, I felt it would be around 8 games right now, and then re-evaluate it when some of these issues go to court and suspend him the other 8 before he reinstates. Same with henry, felt it would be in the 4-6 range, but 8 doesn't bother me! These players need to learn that there are social responsibilities that come with the positions they hold! As the commish said, playign in the NFL is a privaledge, not a right!!
Miller is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 06:21 PM   #13
Outlaw
 
titansfan484's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 84
vCash: 33
Donate
I agree that should have gotten some suspension for his actions off the field, but the penalty that got handed out is just ridiculous. The largest penalty, to the best of my knowledge, that's ever been given out for conduct detrimental was when TO got 4 games with the Eagles a couple of years back, and Pac's 16 game suspension just blew that out of the water, without even being convicted of anything yet. The suspension is completely unprecedented, and Goodell didn't give any explanation for why he gave 16 games, he gave it to him. I'd really like to see an explanation from the league about why he got a stricter suspension than Chris Henry, when they both seemed to be in the same boat. Just imagine how much crap would have been kicked up if Kobe Bryant had been suspended for the entire season when he was accused of rape a couple of years ago, when it turned out that he wasn't guilty at all.

At this rate, Ray Lewis should have gotten about 3 years for being accused of murder, Jamal Lewis should have gotten about 4 years for going to jail for being a drug dealer, and Tank Johnson should get about 5 years for actually serving jail time, but Goodell let him play in the Super Bowl when he was already on house arrest.
titansfan484 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 06:47 PM   #14
Outlaw
Premium Member
 
Beermutts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: RavensTown
Posts: 2,439
vCash: 239521
Donate
It was probably so high because you know the players union will appeal it. Once they do that they we will come to an agreement for a lesser time...
Beermutts is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 06:52 PM   #15
Outlaw
 
Arctic Dawgs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vancouver Island B.C.
Posts: 1,435
vCash: 201144
Donate
Send a message via AIM to Arctic Dawgs
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
and Tank Johnson should get about 5 years for actually serving jail time, but Goodell let him play in the Super Bowl when he was already on house arrest.
According to NFL Network, Tank has an appointment to see Goodell as soon as he is released from jail. And it don't look good for him
Arctic Dawgs is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 07:10 PM   #16
Who Me?
Admin
 
Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 16,090
vCash: 59047993
Donate
Blog Entries: 28
Send a message via AIM to Miller
Quote:
Originally Posted by titansfan484 View Post
I agree that should have gotten some suspension for his actions off the field, but the penalty that got handed out is just ridiculous. The largest penalty, to the best of my knowledge, that's ever been given out for conduct detrimental was when TO got 4 games with the Eagles a couple of years back, and Pac's 16 game suspension just blew that out of the water, without even being convicted of anything yet. The suspension is completely unprecedented, and Goodell didn't give any explanation for why he gave 16 games, he gave it to him. I'd really like to see an explanation from the league about why he got a stricter suspension than Chris Henry, when they both seemed to be in the same boat. Just imagine how much crap would have been kicked up if Kobe Bryant had been suspended for the entire season when he was accused of rape a couple of years ago, when it turned out that he wasn't guilty at all.

At this rate, Ray Lewis should have gotten about 3 years for being accused of murder, Jamal Lewis should have gotten about 4 years for going to jail for being a drug dealer, and Tank Johnson should get about 5 years for actually serving jail time, but Goodell let him play in the Super Bowl when he was already on house arrest.
Remember, it's the repeat offener that he is going after.....Ray & Jamal were not in and out of police custoday for multiple events as Adam and Chris have been. That is why there in deep shit, they just can not stay out of trouble!

And don't worry about Tank, he's getting his.

Anpother one I'm wondering about is Porter. Hasn't he had multiple run in's with the law now? Not to mention his last one was an assult on another NFL player off the field......Iron Fist may not look to highly on that one.

It's all about holding these million dollar babies up to a higher standard. I'm all for it.
Miller is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 07:12 PM   #17
'Burghapologist
 
WesDawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Currently Abilene, TX
Posts: 1,151
vCash: 126511
Donate
Titansfan484, the sooner you come to grips with the fact you have a piece of sh*t menace to society on your roster, the better off we'll all be. Your franchise's front office, as well as the former G.M. that drafted "Pac" (since that's apparently his official surname now) have ALL acknowledged that this is a fair and just ruling.
And stop pretending you'll be rescued by the NFLPA (like everyone else has been, in the past) because they're the ones that brought these suspensions on in the first place because they're fed up with being made to look like fools.

In fact, why don't you take some slow, careful notes on how Miller is reacting to the Henry suspension, because he is far beyond intelligent enough to realize/admit when a man on his favorite team has made a conscious decision to stop acting like a responsible adult male.

This conduct clause has been in existence for quite some time, now the Union has given the commish the leeway to FINALLY enforce it.

Hooray, NFL.

By the way, save the constitutional bullsh*t about innocent until proven guilty for some other time.
This forum's members and readers are way too smart for that regurgitation at this point.
WesDawg is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 07:15 PM   #18
who me?
Admin
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: L.A. (Lower Arkansas)
Posts: 30,004
vCash: 14556857
Donate
Blog Entries: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beermutts View Post
It was probably so high because you know the players union will appeal it. Once they do that they we will come to an agreement for a lesser time...
I am figuring it will be reduced to 10 games, allowing for the to count towards free agency.
Mike is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 07:20 PM   #19
Who Me?
Admin
 
Miller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 16,090
vCash: 59047993
Donate
Blog Entries: 28
Send a message via AIM to Miller
Sounds like it will only be reduced if he is cleared of all his pending matters, I don't see that happening.
Miller is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 04-10-2007, 07:28 PM   #20
Bloggin' Outlaw
Premium Member
Forum Leader
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 12,348
vCash: 1280810
Donate
Blog Entries: 14
Send a message via AIM to Coachnorm Send a message via Yahoo to Coachnorm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller_time View Post
Sounds like it will only be reduced if he is cleared of all his pending matters, I don't see that happening.
That's sort of what I have been reading also.
Coachnorm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pacman Jones in the news again Mike Outlaw NFL Talk 1 03-11-2007 08:10 PM
Pacman faces felony charge in Georgia The Ram Outlaw NFL Talk 1 03-01-2007 03:57 PM
Pacman Jones Suspended STAFF Outlaw NFL Talk 1 11-02-2006 09:38 AM
PacMan Jones arrested for being drunk and belligerent...again The Ram Outlaw NFL Talk 8 08-26-2006 01:30 AM
Suspensions Handed Down... Zepp The Outlaw Hideout 13 11-21-2004 09:44 PM




An exclusive design by: Forumskin.com