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Old 07-19-2007, 03:59 PM   #1
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Fire and Ice 2007 - A Sports Outlaw Exclusive

Fire and Ice is a fantasy football feature that started here at Sports Outlaw in 2006, where our staff and our members break down several featured NFL players in regards to their Average Draft Position (ADP).

The Fire side of the debate will provide an argument for why a player is worthy of their ADP value, or possibly even worthy of a higher pick. The Ice side of the debate will provide an argument why the player just isn't worth it and should not be drafted unless he is available at a later position.

The purpose of this feature is to provide you with yet another interactive fantasy football tool to help you in your draft and trade decisions. We encourage each and every one of you to respond with your thoughts in each thread as we release them.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:06 PM   #2
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Fire and Ice 2007 Players List

  1. Andre Johnson (Wide Receiver, Houston Texans)
  2. Maurice Jones-Drew (Running Back, Jacksonville Jaguars)
  3. Matt Leinart (Quarterback, Arizona Cardinals)
  4. Donovan McNabb (Quarterback, Philadelphia Eagles)
  5. Lee Evans (Wide Receiver, Buffalo Bills)
  6. Larry Johnson (Running Back, Kansas City Chiefs)
  7. Randy Moss (Wide Receiver, New England Patriots)
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:50 PM   #3
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Andre Johnson- ice cold
Maurice jones-drew- fire, look to have a breakout year
matt leinart- luke warm, its still the cardinals
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:29 PM   #4
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You really need a fire and ice on Travis Henry. Player who had a very good year on a bad team who will be starting for DEN. Will it be musical chairs at the RB position in DEN or will Henry be the next Terrel Davis? Usually I am pretty sure of the players I like and don't like, but Henry I am very mixed on. Huge potential but the risk of being pulled at any moment in DEN. Guy could be top 5 if retains the job and gets 80% of the carries.
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good call, but not sure why you have the thumbs down icon?
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:05 PM   #6
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we're all a little backasswards. lol RR
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:10 AM   #7
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good call, but not sure why you have the thumbs down icon?
Trying to tab to the reply button messed me up. Was not a knock on you guys at all. One of the things I love the most about SOF, is that I am able to make suggestions that actually turn into articles/content.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:13 AM   #8
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we're all a little backasswards. lol RR
See, I told ya. RR

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Spec, I think henry should be in the next group!
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Spec, I think henry should be in the next group!
Chris or Travis?
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I would love to see Antonio Gates, considering I keep picking him in the early 3rd
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I would love to see Antonio Gates, considering I keep picking him in the early 3rd
You have to find someone that is ICE on him first
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pick me!
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You have to find someone that is ICE on him first
any volunteers at 3.01?
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Travis Henry. I am usually pretty hot or cold on a guy, but Henry is an enigma to me. He has absolutely HUGE upside. He could realistically be an elite top 3 RB in DEN. But he also carries huge risk because of Shanahan. How many starting RBs has DEN had in the last 5 years? Its probly more than 5.
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If any of you have a player that you would like to submit one side of the argument for, post here. We use antsports for the ADP, but just about any site with a large database of mock drafts should be similar.

We would love to include the members in this.
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Id like to see a Fire and Ice done on the Chicago Bears defense
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I will write the Ice side of Larry Johnson.
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I will write the Ice side of Larry Johnson.
We had that one all wrapped up, but thanks for offering.
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