If I'm not mistaken Harrison is the only reciever to have double digit TD's for the past 8 or so years. I think that settles any arguement.

Teams are still going to put there #1 CBs on Harrison and probably will next year as well. Harrison is the better reciever and will have better career stats, but this year if we are just talking about fantasy points, I'm taking Wayne. Harrison is still going to go over 1000yds and he will still have double digit TDs, but that doesn't mean that he'll have the most productive season. Wayne narrows the gap every year and this year and will have the most productive season. That doesn't take anything away form Harrison. There is enough TDs and yards to go around when Manning is throwing the ball. Also, Wayne i just a little bit more productive when the postseason comes around. My vote just goes to Wayne this year. If teams were going to put their #1 CB on Wayne then I would take Harrison, but for now, Wayne is just going to have more looks.

I think this is a good one. I never draft Harrison and have drafted Wayne, but this year, that might change.

Wayne has always had a much lower adp, and thus his value is why I drafted him. Right now, their adp's are with 3. In that scenario in a redraft, I will take Harrison every time. He is Manning safety valve and has his trust. Manning will still throw to him even if double teamed. Because of the threat of Wayne, Harrison will still be golden.

Look folks. I love Wayne and as a season ticket holder, I'm glad we have both of them. However from a fantasy point of view, you simply cannot take Wayne and hope he finally surpasses Harrison. You have to consider the risk/reward. Reward: IF Wayne surpasses Harrison this year, does anyone really believe it will be by a bunch? No. Risk: On the other hand, could Reggie have significantly less fantasy points than Harrison if he doesn't surpass him? Yes. You're talking about 2 guys who will be drafted at about the same spot. One is a sure-fire no-brainer double digit TD machine and the other is hoping to surpass him and hit double digit TDs for only the second time in his career.

Hate to burst everyone's bubble here, but at some point, the double digit TD's will end for Marvin. He simply is not getting any younger. Wayne on the other hand is not the risk of slipping due to age that Marvin is. Am I saying it will be this year? Nope, but I am saying that it will happen soon, and it could happen this year. To blindly take Marvin b/c he has always done it is turning a blind eye to father time, at some point, it catches up with everyone. Wayne is the safer bet this year IMO, both are very similar values, but given the choice I'm going with the guy entering his Prime, not the guy leaving it. Give me Wayne.

id like to see how many of you have been picking wayne the last year, 2 years, 3 years waiting for him to pass harrison.

i suppose you recommend passing on tomlinson too. how many other RBs have finished in the top 4 for six years in a row (this would be his sixth)? none, not even emmitt smith.

if im going to go down in flames, i'll gladly do it with the greatest fantasy WR of all time. id rather do that than be the idiot who drafted wayne 3 or 4 (or ??) years in a row knowing that THIS is the year he would become more valuable than harrison.

Not me, this is year one for me, but everyone has a time, and this just happens to be Marvins, and the LT comparision is not even worth the time it took you to write it, come on, you don't have anything better then that??

And your not going down in flames with either one of these guys, they will both post great numbers, I just have Wayne slightly higher, and since I do, I would naturally draft Wayne first.

Miller Time to the rescue I knew I was right and you have confirmed it. You are my SO hero

I have to agree with EC, this Philly product is just a great player. Payton is a student of NFL history, I am sure he will get Marvin over the hump, he may do the same for Reggie. But you just need to know, Payton will always know where Marvin is on the field.
Side note, this came up at the pro bowl about his connection with Marvin, they see the same thing when they come to the line. He said (Payton) I can take my drop look off the DB and know where Marvin will go, and make the throw on his break.
This is why they will go in the HOF together!!!

for the record, harrison was targetted 9 more times than wayne last year, had 9 more catches, and 3 more TDs.

harrison had 10 more targets than wayne in 05 and 25 more in 04.

and for the record, wow... jerry rice STILL has 77 more receiving td than marvin harrison. of course rice played 10 more seasons past where harrisons at right now. jeez. can you imagine harrison playing in 10 years? i hope not. i dont like his chances of passing rice. hes not going to keep averaging double digit TDs forever, which means he really would have to play like 10 more years to do it.

only about 520 receptions and 9000 yards separate the two. yes, "only" lol. thats probably 8 or 9 seasons to make up the yardage so that ones not happening. the receptions one is a legit possibility. 6 more years of 90 catch seasons would do it. or a few more 85-90s and then some 60-70s after that. id say hes 50/50 on passing that one.

did anyone know jerry rice had 10 rushing TDs? turns out the guy was pretty good.

for the record, i think the tomlinson comparison is legit. both he and harrison are once in a generation players. but both are standing right now facing ground that has never been faced before. sure harrison is older but tomlinson also gets about 300 more touches a season. LT2 has had just under 2500 touches in his first 6 seasons.... what other RB in NFL history has garnered that load? not emmitt. not dickerson.

im not saying LT is done, but blindly taking him at #1 and figuring him to continue as a top 5 back for several more years is historically just as bad an idea as expecting harrison to keep up his pace. in fact history shows that both of these two guys may hit a wall and fall off a bunch this year. wouldnt that rock the fantasy world? i have to be honest -- im not taking LT in any of my drafts. i wouldnt pass on him at 2, but i would try to trade for the gold mine that awaits. im not "worried" per se, but i am not ignoring the warning signs either.

To all draftingWayne ahead of Harrison. You are making a mistake. You are certanily entitled to your opinion, and I'll leave it at that. Talk to me after the season.
Miller, you made my point loud and clear by telling bomb he won't go down in flames with Harrison. You said Harrison and Wayne will have good years but this is the year Wayne passes Harrison. Read my risk/reward post (post #24.) Your point is exactly why you cannot draft Wayne ahead of Harrison. The reward for drafting Wayne ahead of Harrison IF Wayne passes Harrison is minimal, but the risk of drafting Wayne ahead of Harrison is significant.

As stated before, Harrison is higher ranked to me than Wayne.

Also, this year I had the chance in a redraft league(drafting #13 of 14) and took S.Smith and Chad Johnson over both.

I said it earlier this thread, and I think it may have been missed. Gonzales will effect these two. Go back and look at the numbers when Stokley had his record year in Indy. And Gonzales is better than Stokley. Of the two, I am higher on Marvin..but both will lose some this year due to 3 wr set..and Gonzales.

OMG. So a rookie WR3 is going to steal TDs and yards away from arguably the best WR duo in the NFL. That's more nuts that drafting Wayne over Harrison. Gonzo played a couple of plays with the first team last night, but didn't even get a ball thrown his way. To your suggestion, let's go back and look at Stokely's record year. They all finished with over 10 TDs and over 1000 yards. It didn't effect Harrison and Wayne. It only gave Stokely a few more TDs and yards, and those were taken away from Dallas Clark. I like Gonzo and he's not a bad pick in a dynasty league, but he will no way negatively effect Harrison's or Wayne's numbers this year.

i dont have a clue what you are saying here, you seem to say you shouldnt draft harrison or wayne.

one thing to add here. you cant just assume that if harrison is ahead again, its a minimal margin and hasnt cost you much. last year that was true as wayne was almost equal in points, but in 2 of the past 4 years wayne was not even in the top 20 WRs. until he establishes himself better, why should i waste my 2nd rounder on him? santana moss has been in the top 10 twice in the last four years too, and he's a 6th round pick.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying what you're saying. IF Wayne passes Harrison it won't be by much, but there is a chance that Harrison significantly outscores Wayne. Therefore the Risk in drafting Wayne ahead of Harrison is not worth the Reward.

ok thats what i thought, but read your last post again. #33. you said that everyone drafting harrison is maknig a mistake... one can see why i wouldve been confused.

Sorry. I meant everyone drafting Wayne ahead of Harrison.

I edited that statement