Again dummy he was cited for doing wheelies that doesn't mean he crashed doing one. You are stupid hypocrite for trying to rag on this guy yet saying what Ben Roethlisberger does is ok.

It's no wonder that you are sticking up for Winslow. You both have this me-first mentality that is completely out of line. There is a cardinal rule in all team sports that you put the team in front of yourself. By acting a fool, while still recovering from another accident, and knowing how vital he was the the team, Winslow put himself first. Inappropriate. Also, I read that he had just purchased the bike that day....and didnt yet have a real license....what does that say about him maturity level?

Look, he is not ever going to be as good as his father....and if he wants to do all that BS, then he should go see if Evil Knevil has an assistant's position available. The point is, I find it quite humorous that you are fighting so diligently on his behalf. So, he wasn't doing a wheelie at the exact moment that he crashed.....point? During the time leading up to the crash, he was popping wheelies, doing endos, yada yada, ....his mentality (or lack thereof) was not in the right place. He was acting reckless and therefore he crashed.

Roeth's incident and this are two completely different things and should be discussed as such. It has nothing to do with being a hater on the Solja....just common sense....something that you lack.

You have no proof he didn't have the accident due to wheelies either. The fact he was EVEN doing them, with the fact he was NOT an experienced rider furthers my opinion of what a jack ass he really was. It also greatly explains why you defend him so hard...as you TOO are a jackass.

As for Ben, show me where he broke the law, or was riding dangerously, otherwise, shut up.

Why is it out of line? Who is he supposed to live for? By the way what about Ben Roethlisberger? Does he have a me first mentality?
It says nothing. It's called bad judgement. And if that's the cardinal rule then what do you think of Ben Roethlisberger?
Yeah I know he's better
You make it sound as if its difficult to do a wheelie.
Point is why do you keep bringing it up? Again you can fall and injure yourself badly pulling out of a drivey on a bike
No he wasn't since he was able to perform those tricks without incident.
Again why are they different? You talked about not being selfish in a team sport yet you have Big Ben defying his coaches and his teammates wishes. But of course you won't mention that cuz youre nothing but a hater.

Well he was going 30 mph when he crashed...kinda hard to do a wheelie going that slow. Plus had he fallen off doing a wheelie he would most assuredly have road rash and damage to his back.
Really? Funny how an inexperienced rider was able to perform wheelies and endos without a problem. Seems to me that the jackass here is you. But thats obvious to all.

According to you riding a bike period is dangerous...oh but you dont contradict yourself right?

Because he choose to act a fool rather than obey his contract.


No, its called IMMATURITY AND RECKLESSNES....



Apparently it is for a novice rider....hence, him not being able to control this big powerful machine and hitting a curb.

Irrelevant. That is not what happened here.


Without incident???? UUUmmmm....I think not. Hitting a curb as a result of recklessness is considered an incident....or maybe the NFL's investigation is wrong?.... c'mon.


Again, two different incidents. Roeth was simply riding down the highway. He was not attempting to perform careless acts which resulted in a crash. You can bring up the issue of him not wearing a helmet, but, helmets are not required in the state of PA. But, if there was a helmet law, I am sure that Roeth would have been wearing one....AND, he would have had it strapped on properly.

"obey" his contract. Nice wording. Again most players don't read their contracts.

No its not just bad judgement

Again even the most experienced riders crash. You don't have to be a novice to crash. Apparantly he's pretty good since he was able to do wheelies and endos without incident.
It is relevant because it points out the fact that anyone can crash on a motorcycle.

He didn't crash doing a wheelie so yes he did those without incident.

Huh? Riding on a road in traffic wouldn't result in a crash? Gee you don't get out much do you? Getting on the road period is dangerous...getting on the road on a bike is 10 times more dangerous. What Ben does is more dangerous than what Winslow did. On top of that his teammates and coach asked him not to do that and he refuses to "obey" them so what do you call that?
Irrelevant. Fact is he wasn't wearing a helmet and thus is exposing himself to greater risk than Winslow did.

That's THEIR problem...not the NFL's... No one should suffer from that negligence, but the player involved. Had he read his contract, he may not have riden the motorcycle in that fashion knowing what the consequences were...but, given his immaturity, he still would have done it anyway.

No, its immaturity and recklessness.

Again, you are incorrect. He crashed as a result of his recklessness. Had he simply been riding around the parking lot, we wouldnt be having this conversation....(if only....)


Still irrelevant. As this incident proves, you up your chances when doing dumb ass tricks when you are an inexperienced rider.



Wrong....WITH incident.

LMFAO.....Come join us in reality land. ...it's quite lovely here.

It is relevant, you turd. hhhhhmmm.....popping wheelies and doing endos while speeding in a parking lot...OR obeying the speed limit while cruising down the highway..... I do believe the latter is much more safe.

OH so now you are calling him immature for something he MAY have done? Oh yeah youre not a hater

Still waiting for someone to show me one instance of immaturity.


No its bad judgement. Riding a motorcycle isn't mature and since you dont know what immature means here it is:

im·ma·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-tyr, -tr, -chr)
adj.
Not fully grown or developed. See Synonyms at young.
Marked by or suggesting a lack of normal maturity: silly, immature behavior.
Again an ignorant statement. He didn't crash as a result or recklessness he crashed because that is the nature of riding a bike. You crash whether or not you are novice or a pro whether or not youre doing wheelies or just slowly riding it as he was when he crashed.

Again what does doing tricks have to do with anything when he didnt crash doing tricks?


Again he wasn't speeding, he wasn't doing wheelies when he crashed. And if you think that riding around in a parking lot is more dangerous than riding around in traffic then you are just flat out stupid.

According to the report I saw, he was also doing front enders( I assume fast stops to go onto front wheel?) so you still have no proof it was NOT during one of these things.


Perhaps you should read the attached article numb nuts. I am repeating what it says. Sorry reality proves you the fool.



So, you can't win the arguement, so you have to try and change it. What a bafoon. I said I don't find them safe and would not ride one, if someone else wants to...thats their issue, as long as they obey the law....OOPS...Rothlesburger is. Meanwhile...Hurijerk didn't, he is out AGAIN and oh...he is gonna be alot poorer soon....

Again even when youre doing a front ender you are going faster than 30 mph and he obviously wasn't going that fast. Again you cant have it both ways...first you say he hit a curb now you say he was doing a trick.
Yeah I did and apparantly you dont know how to read.

How did I change the arguement? You said riding motorcycles are unsafe PERIOD...again your words. You may want to backtrack on that again but those are your words. So according to you what Redjerk was doing was also unsafe but you wont say that because youre nothing but a moronic hater.

Hmm...inexperience rider, riding a crotch rocket, doing wheelies and front enders, and getting cited by Police....Hey I know...why don't you open YOUR eyes?




Actually, its both.


Bullshit. Perhaps you would like to PROVE this with statistics? Not EVERY motorcycle rider crashes, and it is NOT the nature of riding a bike. Just shut up already.



Again, prove it. See attached article and other reports.




Again you are wrong. He was speeding and driving recklessly. He was cited for it. He is HURT AGAIN. He is about to be poorer. Thems the facts.

Hey dufus..do you read? I was saying nothing, I am telling you what he was cited for....and what happened.


Prove it...quote it here.



I didn't say that. I said I think they are unsafe and would never own one.

Thats not immature. Only in your own jackass eyes


Again youre obviously too stupid to be able to read and comprehend defintions.
Hey stupid do yourself a favor why dont you ask someone that rides speed bikes on a regular basis. Who the hell is goign to keep a statsitic on EVERY SINGLE bike owner in america jackass? Fact is I was a part of the bike culture when I was younger and I can absolutely guarantee you that anyone who regularly rides speed bikes crash at one point or another and sometimes more than once. Its part of the whole deal. But again I wouldnt expect you to pull your head out of your ass and actually learn about a subject before you talk about it.
I already did prove it...his injuries nor his bike damage isn't consistent with him doing a trick when he crashed.


No youre wrong. He wasn't speeding and he wasnt riding at an unsafe speed. Again for a bike 30 mph is an extremely safe speed.

You know whats still a fact? Youre a dumbass.

I hope this financial loss is enough to help "the Chosen One" grow up a bit. He will be a lot poorer, as his income for the season is in jeopardy as well due to the situation causing his injury.
As to "Big Ben", if he is injured while riding his Harley, he should face the same financial penalties.
The fact remains that Kellen Winslow, Jr. was cited for failing to ride his motorcycle in a safe manner. He was injured doing so, violating conditions of his contract with the Browns, and will be required to repay some of the bonus money he was given.

What also happened was he hit a curb...which was also reported not doing a trick when he crashed so again youre proven wrong.

I already did.

No you said they were unsafe period. But again I wouldnt expect a backtracking like you to actually live up to your own words. Then again considering how stupid those words that come out of your sewer are I wouldnt want to live up to them either.