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Old 05-29-2005, 04:46 PM   #1
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May 26, 2005
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

CLEVELAND -- Kellen Winslow Jr. apologized to Browns fans on Thursday for his reckless use of a motorcycle and confirmed that he will miss the upcoming season because of injuries sustained in the crash.

Winslow tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee and suffered unspecified internal injuries on May 1 when he wrecked his high-powered motorcycle while attempting tricks in a secluded parking lot near his home.

For the first time since the crash, Winslow confirmed that he will miss his second season as a pro and acknowledged that it was a mistake to take up motorcycle riding.

"To those members of the Cleveland Browns family who I have disappointed by my decision to ride a motorcycle, I humbly apologize," Winslow said in the statement. "In hindsight it was unwise to attempt to learn to ride a motorcycle without a professional instructor in a controlled environment.

"While many of you are disappointed that I will not be on the field with my teammates for this upcoming season, no one is more disappointed in this fact than me."

Winslow did not indicate if he will seek a second medical opinion on his knee. Last week, two sources within the league told the Associated Press that Winslow tore his ACL in the accident.

Winslow, who spent nine days at the Cleveland Clinic recovering from injuries in the crash, has been working out at the Browns' training facility in Berea. He has taken part in the team's 11-day passing camp, learning the new playbook and system being installed by Browns first-year coach Romeo Crennel.

Because he broke a dangerous activities clause in his contract, the Browns may try to recoup a portion of the $5.05 million in bonuses he has received since signing a six-year, $40 million contract last season.

The club may restructure Winslow's contract to allow him to make back some of the money he may have to return.

Winslow bought the motorcycle on April 9. Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike before hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars.

He was charged with disregarding safety, a misdemeanor that carries a maximum fine of $150.

Winslow, a star at the University of Miami, was the sixth overall pick in the 2004 draft. The Browns traded a second-round pick to move up one spot to select the son of Hall of Famer Kellen Winslow Sr.

The club was counting on him to improve their offense last season, but he broke his right leg in Week 2 at Dallas and missed Cleveland's last 14 games.

He was still recovering from two operations on his leg at the time of his motorcycle accident.

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Please take note of what I put in bold...

So, Zepp, YOU ARE WRONG...he DID, indeed, wreck his bike while attempting to do immature tricks and not from simply joyriding in a parking lot...

Case closed.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:47 PM   #2
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Please take note of what I put in bold...

So, Zepp, YOU ARE WRONG...he DID, indeed, wreck his bike while attempting to do immature tricks and not from simply joyriding in a parking lot...

Case closed.
Wrong again. This is not a police report this is a reporters interpretation. The police report clearly said he hit a curb doing around 30mph. Thats case closed.

And again his injuries and the damage to the bike is not consistent with crashing while doing a trick.
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Wrong again. This is not a police report this is a reporters interpretation. The police report clearly said he hit a curb doing around 30mph.
Stop. Have you read the police report??? Didn't think so.

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And again his injuries and the damage to the bike is not consistent with crashing while doing a trick.
Oh ok, so now you are a crash expert?
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Oh ok, so now you are a crash expert?
You dont need to be a crash expert to tell whether or not a bike fell over on its side, was flipped over or anything else.
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You dont need to be a crash expert to tell whether or not a bike fell over on its side, was flipped over or anything else.
Apparently, you do. That is why that profession exists.



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This is not a police report this is a reporters interpretation. The police report clearly said he hit a curb doing around 30mph.
SHOW ME WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFO RIGHT NOW. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
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SHOW ME WHERE YOU GOT THIS INFO RIGHT NOW. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Uhhh didnt you just post this like a half hour ago in another thread?
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Zepp, you are so full of contridictions, that it isnt even funny.

So, here is where we stand:

My orgininal post in this thread proved you wrong...and, you said that it was unreliable b/c it was a reporters interpretation....not a police report.

So, I ask you to show me YOUR references and you tell me to refer to my previous post in the other thread...
The post you are referring to, which somewhat proves your point, is also a reporters interpretation.

So, in other words, you will believe a reporters interpretation as long as it coincides with what you believe???

You crack me up!
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So, I ask you to show me YOUR references and you tell me to refer to my previous post...
The post you are referring to, which somewhat proves your point, is also a reporters interpretation.

So, in other words, you will believe a reporters interpretation as long as it coincides with what you believe???

You crack me up!
Again that is incorrect. What you posted in the other thread CLEARLY INDICATED that it was a police report. What this article you posted here says nothing about being a police report. It is simply a reporters interpretation.
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"Winslow was hurt while riding his motorcycle in the parking lot of a community college Sunday. According to police, he hit a curb while driving 35 mph and was thrown from the bike."

see the difference now?
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Zepp is simply not willing to admit that he is wrong, even though he clearly is.
Zepp, this is a case where you are unable, for whatever reason, to look at the situation in an objective manner.
Kellen Winslow violated the conditions of the contract that he signed last season. He was cited by the local police for being at fault in the accident. He has been told that he will be required to return some of his signing bonuses.
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By the way this just goes ahead and further proves my point that he was doing it in a safe area. A community college parking lot on a Sunday. A community college parking lot is huge naturally because it needs to accomodate for a ton of students. He was doing it on Sunday....last time I checked there are no classes on Sunday. Thus he was learning to ride a motorcycle in a safe empty parking lot. An extremely safe way to learn. Definately 10 times more safe than going out on the road in traffic. So in fact he did the responsible thing.
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"Winslow was hurt while riding his motorcycle in the parking lot of a community college Sunday. According to police, he hit a curb while driving 35 mph and was thrown from the bike."

see the difference now?

Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike before hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars.

Uuuummmm......difference, WHERE?????

Which POLICE report interpreted by a reporter would you like to use???????
The latter is more reliable since it was reported on the 26th and the former was like the day after when details are always sketchy....
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Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike before hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars.

Uuuummmm......difference, WHERE?????

Which POLICE report interpreted by a reporter would you like to use???????
The latter is more reliable since it was reported on the 26th and the former was like the day after when details are always sketchy....
Uh no honey you cant have it both ways unless you are willing to accept that the police department is contradicting itself.
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The Soljah: "To those members of the Cleveland Browns family who I have disappointed by my decision to ride a motorcycle, I humbly apologize..... In hindsight it was unwise to attempt to learn to ride a motorcycle without a professional instructor in a controlled environment.
First time I'VE ever seen Winslow show humility. Maybe the dumbass will grow TF UP.

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Zactly, I'd be more disappointed than everybody else, too, if I was the one about to lose millions......

What a POS dope, but it looks like he's getting smarter (or is now taking some good advise). Maybe the U of M oughta take a little more time to educate its spawn, rather than just spewing outta a bunch of dumbass, selfish, albeit talented football pawns.
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What a POS dope, but it looks like he's getting smarter (or is now taking some good advise). Maybe the U of M oughta take a little more time to educate its spawn, rather than just spewing outta a bunch of dumbass, selfish, albeit talented football pawns.
Unfortunately you cant show any examples of that.
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A community college parking lot is huge naturally because it needs to accomodate for a ton of students.
First of all, you are proving your substantial lack of knowledge once again. It was a "community college", not a University. Those are two completely different things. Community colleges don't typically have very large parking lots. And, saying that it needs to accomodate a "ton" of students is an extreme overstatement.
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First of all, you are proving your substantial lack of knowledge once again. It was a "community college", not a University. Those are two completely different things. Community colleges don't typically have very large parking lots. And, saying that it needs to accomodate a "ton" of students is an extreme overstatement.
Really? Can we reasonably assume that a community college has at least 500 students? Even though realistically most community colleges have student bodies in the thousands. Well if a community college had 500 students I think we can say that they would have a pretty decent sized parking lot wouldnt you?

Again I think it is extremely safe to say that he was in a pretty big parking lot.
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Uh no honey you cant have it both ways unless you are willing to accept that the police department is contradicting itself.
I am not trying to have my cake and eat it, too.

I am clearly stating that the original article was written a short time after the accident occured. The more reliable article was written on the 26th....and, it is based on the complete investigation. That proves all of US right, and you wrong, Zepp. He was being immature and reckless...and, as a result, he ran into a curb while trying to do a wheelie.

"Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike before hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars."
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Really? Can we reasonably assume that a community college has at least 500 students? Even though realistically most community colleges have student bodies in the thousands. Well if a community college had 500 students I think we can say that they would have a pretty decent sized parking lot wouldnt you?

Again I think it is extremely safe to say that he was in a pretty big parking lot.
That's the problem...YOU ASSUME. You think that a community college has only ONE parking lot for ALL the students??? HAHAHAHA....Wrong. They have 3-5 SMALL ones scattered amongst the buildings....
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I am clearly stating that the original article was written a short time after the accident occured. The more reliable article was written on the 26th....and, it is based on the complete investigation. That proves all of US right, and you wrong, Zepp. He was being immature and reckless...and, as a result, he ran into a curb while trying to do a wheelie.
First of all I have already proven that it wasn't immature since a) you wont say that what Ben does is immature even though its the same thing and b) the dictionary clearly indicates that you are misusing the word in this situation.

Second of all you are not comprehending either article very well....

"Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike before hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars."

This says that they saw performing wheelies before the time that he hit a curb. The other report said that he crashed by hitting a curb as he was riding. All this article that you posted here is saying is that he was performing wheelies BEFORE he crashed. It NEVER says that he crashed WHILE performing wheelies. Had he done that the report wouldve read:

"Westlake Police obtained a surveillance tape that showed him performing "wheelies" on the bike while hitting a curb at 35 mph and flying over the handlebars"

So you can try and try but the facts prove you wrong.
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