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Old 05-14-2008, 04:12 AM   #281
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Obviously the commishioner destroyed the tapes to protect the teams that had been filmed.

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Old 05-14-2008, 06:36 AM   #282
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Well, what I wanted was made clear in all this.

As pointed out by Sal Palentonio on ESPN radio this morning. What was made perfectly clear was the order to Walsh that at no point was he to get caught, nor share this information. This clearly shows NE KNEW what it was doing was illegal. It also shows the methodical approach they took, which clearly shows intent.

My point is this. Yes, NE got punished. Yes, it was a severe punishment. But through all this was the woe is me attitude of Bellichek of I didn't know I was breaking the rules. Clearly that was not the case, and he now has to live with the shame of being proven he is a liar as well as a cheat.

I can live with that.
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Old 05-14-2008, 06:58 AM   #283
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The Boston Herald, source of the "Rams walk through tape exists" story 1 day before the SB is now issuing an apology

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Not surprising the paper and writer (Tomase) are getting crucified in the comments section...
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I would to take this opprutunity to thank Arlen for keeping this story alive.
-- Arlen Specter Calls for Independent Spygate Investigation --
Wed May 14, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
The Boston Globe reports Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter called today for an independent investigation into the Patriots' illegal taping practices, citing what he called an obvious conflict between the interest of the NFL and the public interest. "After a lot of consideration it's my judgment that there ought to be an impartial investigation, an outside investigation, like the [steroids] investigation that baseball had with former [Maine] Senator George Mitchell," said Specter at a Capitol Hill news conference. Specter, who is the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, stopped short of saying the government would conduct an investigation if the NFL didn't do so, but didn't rule out Congressional hearings to look into the matter, if action wasn't taken. Specter met with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for three hours yesterday in his Hart Senate Office Building office. He said that Walsh told him that a former offensive player for the Patriots told Walsh a few days before a Sept. 11, 2000 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that the offensive player was called into a meeting with HC Bill Belichick, then OC Charlie Weis and Belichick confidant Ernie Adams. During the meeting it was explained to the player how the signal tapes would be used. According to Specter's recount of what Walsh detailed to him, the offensive player, who was on the sidelines for the game, would memorize the signals then watch for the Tampa Bay defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the call along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field. Specter's statement said that the offensive player told Walsh that it helped the Patriots anticipate 75 percent of the defensive plays being called.
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-- Arlen Specter Calls for Independent Spygate Investigation --
Wed May 14, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
The Boston Globe reports Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter called today for an independent investigation into the Patriots' illegal taping practices, citing what he called an obvious conflict between the interest of the NFL and the public interest. "After a lot of consideration it's my judgment that there ought to be an impartial investigation, an outside investigation, like the [steroids] investigation that baseball had with former [Maine] Senator George Mitchell," said Specter at a Capitol Hill news conference. Specter, who is the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, stopped short of saying the government would conduct an investigation if the NFL didn't do so, but didn't rule out Congressional hearings to look into the matter, if action wasn't taken. Specter met with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh for three hours yesterday in his Hart Senate Office Building office. He said that Walsh told him that a former offensive player for the Patriots told Walsh a few days before a Sept. 11, 2000 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that the offensive player was called into a meeting with HC Bill Belichick, then OC Charlie Weis and Belichick confidant Ernie Adams. During the meeting it was explained to the player how the signal tapes would be used. According to Specter's recount of what Walsh detailed to him, the offensive player, who was on the sidelines for the game, would memorize the signals then watch for the Tampa Bay defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the call along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field. Specter's statement said that the offensive player told Walsh that it helped the Patriots anticipate 75 percent of the defensive plays being called.
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Sorry, but can we just let this die!! Specter needs to go concentrate on finding ways for us to NOT pay $4 per gal of gas and let this issue die. Bellicheat cheated, was punished, and we now all know he KNEW he was cheating.....I wish we could all just move on.
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Sorry, but can we just let this die!! Specter needs to go concentrate on finding ways for us to NOT pay $4 per gal of gas and let this issue die. Bellicheat cheated, was punished, and we now all know he KNEW he was cheating.....I wish we could all just move on.
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The Boston Herald, source of the "Rams walk through tape exists" story 1 day before the SB is now issuing an apology

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Not surprising the paper and writer (Tomase) are getting crucified in the comments section...

oh come on...maybe they just "misinterpreted" the story...
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oh come on...maybe they just "misinterpreted" the story...
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here's some more info about what walsh had to say (for those of us who are interested, miller )

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/sp...hp&oref=slogin
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here's some more info about what walsh had to say (for those of us who are interested, miller )

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/sp...hp&oref=slogin
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here's some more info about what walsh had to say (for those of us who are interested, miller )

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/sp...hp&oref=slogin
Just to clarify, my comment was directed at sports media in general and Sen Spector and not those discussing it here. You all can dwell on it all you want

I just think Specter needs to let this drop.....
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  • -- Joey Porter Believes Patriots' Championships Should Have an Asterisk --
    Fri May 23, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
  • ESPN reports angry LB Joey Porter thinks the New England Patriots cheated their way to championships and the NFL's destruction of Spygate tapes suggested the league had something to hide after conducting its investigation. "They [the Patriots] cheated, there should be an asterisk. They cheated and they got caught," the All-Pro linebacker, who spent eight seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers before joining Miami in free agency last season, said in an interview on "NFL Live." "Why, if you have nothing to hide, would you destroy [the evidence]? That's how I've looked at it from the beginning. Why destroy something that doesn't have to be destroyed? Let everyone know what was on the tapes. Why would you destroy them so fast?" The Spygate investigation began after the NFL confiscated tapes from a team employee who recorded the New York Jets' defensive signals in the 2007 season opener. HC Bill Belichick was fined $500,000; the team was fined $250,000 and forced to forfeit its 2008 first-round draft choice. Porter called Belichick's fine a "slap on the wrist didn't fit the crime."
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Just to clarify, my comment was directed at sports media in general and Sen Spector and not those discussing it here. You all can dwell on it all you want

I just think Specter needs to let this drop.....
You might feel differently if your team had lost a conference championship or a Super Bowl to the Patriots during the Spygate era. I want to know as much as possible and Specter is putting pressure on the league which has been trying to sweep it all under the rug (destroying evidence, insisting "its over" repeatedly).
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-- Specter Continuing to Pursue SpyGate --
Fri Sep 5, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
The Boston Herald reports Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Penn.) still refuses to give the New England Patriots or the NFL a pass on Spygate and says he's hellbent on his crusade against pigskin cheating. "I don't do anything except with vigor," Specter told the Track yesterday after a Republican National Convention health care forum sponsored by The Creative Coalition. "I think there will be more on the issue of irregularities with the NFL. I published a report in June that gave my position, but there will be more aspects of this that need to be examined."

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Nooooooooooooooooooo not this damn thread again
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This guy needs to get a life and if he really wants to do something then maybe he can do something about the NFL and Illegal Gambling. Oh maybe he can look into point fixing in the NFL.

This story just had to come out when its time to enjoy some Football

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