the reason the situations are similar is that both Polian and 'lil Kraft both come off looking like whiney littly crybabys.

I agree, but my point is, until I brought it up, I haven't heard anyone talking about Kraft's whining even though we heard plenty about Mangini's whining. What's the difference?

If it came out that the "skip" was from the stadium sound system, (which it wasn't), there would be no difference.
You'd hear a lot of people calling 'lil Kraft a whiner. Since it turned out to be nothing, people have moved on.
I think Magini had a right to complain... but he may regret taking it as far as he did, setting up a "sting" with the league officials on hand.
The memo that was issued to the teams stating that this type of stuff needed to stop also had information telling teams how much gatoraide and water, how many towels, etc. was to be made available for opposing teams. To read it, it made the memo seem a bit unimportant. I think Mangini only wanted the crap to stop and posably embarrass Belichick a bit. Now with record fines and draft picks lost, people blame Mangini for being a "Rat".

So the explaination is that because the Colts weren't actually cheating, that doesn't make 'lil Kraft a whiner? Or are you just saying that's why people aren't talking about it? I think it makes him more of a whiner. At least Mangini was whining about something legitimate, 'lil Kraft didn't even know what he was talking about.

I'm saying they're both whiners but it's hard to say to what degree. Mangini had a legitamate gripe, 'lil Kraft did not .... but did he simply ask if the NFL would be looking into this? or did he yell and scream and insist that the league penalize the Colts?
On sports talk radio Monday a.m. they were interviewing Teddy Bruschi... they asked him if he knew anything of the "skip" and he said no. So they replayed the broadcast for him to hear... his reaction was "Whoa, I guess the league is gonna have to look into this!"
Soon after, the national media was reporting that "Teddy Bruschi was insisting that the NFL look into crowd noise incedent" Not at all how Bruschi came accross... but the media spun it to thier advantage, to gain more interest. Bruschi is not a whiner.

Why is this discussion still going on? CBS already said that this was their error.....and GP, you sound like lil kraft right now, stop whining your team won the game.....

I was simply responding to Bull.
(not sure why you'd think I'm whining)

Did you not start the thread?

yeah.... 4 days ago ... which was monday am... before the league determined it was only the tv broadcast.

... and I'm still wondering why NBC thinks they need to "spice up" the game with phony crowd noise.... wasn't there enugh already?

let it go dude.

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unpossible...........he's got it bad!

I can let it go. I can let it go anytime I want... like right now.




See? there it goes. You don't have to keep telling me to let it go. It's already gone as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't even exist anymore. Poof... like a cloud of smoke. Gone. Cus if I know anything, I know when to let something go and this is it. No more. The end. Nothing else to say. Finished. Done. So do you think the Colts have the technology to pipe in crowd noise if they choose to... and how could we tell if they did?

Hahaa....

It was CBS....and i guess they do need to to that and some producer thought it was a good idea....regardless why worry about that.....