RedLasso - Senator Arlen Specter: Patriots Cheating & Spygate Investigation

Here is the interview of Arlen Specter from late last night on Philadelphia's NBC 10. The Senator answers a variety of questions on where this might lead with mounting suspicions and most of the evidence conveniently destroyed. Very interesting.

Bring in Matt Walsh! He said "there are other matters that haven't been disclosed that the Patriots should take responsibility for". Specter says "there is a lot more here than meets the eye".

Does any of this really matter? Without the tapes, doesn't this just turn into a he said, she said.

It depends on whether the camera man (Walsh) happens to posess any evidence.

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Sal Palontonio alluded to the fact yesterday that he might have a copy of the walk thru.

Thats what Sal says but everyone else has said its very doubtful. All we can do is wait and see. If there is no tape then the story has no credibility. I still cannot see how they could take film unless they were hiding in the rafters.

In addition to the possible file on the Rams, the possible long term effect of this is the NFL losing its anti-trust exemption.

However, unless that Rams film shows up, I don't think anything will come out of this other than the prevention of Goodell ever destroying evidence like this again.

The NFL won't lose it's anti-trust exemption no matter what, it's not in the interests of the United States that it do so. However, the Senate might elect to set up an oversight committee just to make sure that Goodell, and all future commissioners, toe the line.

are people actually still concerned about the future integrity of the game?
It seems to me that the punishment levied by the commissioner on the Patriots was enough of a deterrent to keep any team from these types of shenanigans.
Lets move on already.

As a Pats fan, I'm sure you would like to "move on already." At the end of the day, the Pats cheated and they were punished for it, but the commish is covering something up. Otherwise, why destroy the tapes? It's like saying the Pats didn't benefit from taping defensive signals. No one can explain why they did it if they weren't benefiting. Same thing on why the commish destroyed the tapes. In fact, if I were the commish and I had handed out a harsh punishment, I would immediately show the tapes. That way everyone would say, "holy shit, he hit the Pats hard for no more than was on the tapes."
What on earth makes you think that this punishment even keeps Belicheat from repeating his "shenanigans" much less any coach that hasn't been caught? A financial hit and a hit in an upcoming draft aren't that severe. Hell, teams already trade future stability for winning now.

I predict Goodell becomes the fall guy for the integrity of the league, and deservedly so. He botched it!

I doubt it. I think if it comes out that Bellichick lied, he's going to get the proverbial ass raping without lube. At the very least a year's suspension for the surly asshole, although a redistribution of their remaining picks to the rest of the East wouldn't be out of line IMO.

You've got to be kidding. You actually think any team would be willing to chance being caught "videotaping" at the risk of losing thier 1st rd draft pick? And think that Belicheat would continue partaking in these activities??

Wow. I must really underestimate the value of the NFL draft ... as well as underestimating the apparent enormous advantage gained with tape of D-coordinators hand gestures ...that are disguised and changed up to fool the other team they know is watching.

Yeah, lets give all their draft picks to the AFC East... we'll start with #1 to MIA since they had the worst record, then ... aw who cares after that. So long as your team benefits.

Bottom line, the "rules" were broken (not the "law"), unpresidented punnishment has been levied.
The recent news that has been generated was conviently timed to distract the SuperBowl bound Patriots. If there were much meat to this than why wait until the week of the SuperBowl to bring it up?

Where's RC? At least he makes a bit of sense as he hates away at the Patriots.

Bill Belichick already did this. And he didn't even wait until the playoffs...

OMG... did you even read the post that I was quoting?

Let me rephrase that then:

I have read everything - but let me rephrase:

"Yes"

I do believe that another team would risk suffering draft pick penalties to videotape in a coordinated manner or steal another team's walk through even after the Patriots got busted. Why? Because if the Patriots were willing to take that risk in game 1 week 1 against a team that they were far superior to why wouldn't another team use these tactics to help themselves in the Super Bowl?

It's not done for nothing. The Patriots knew the risks and cheated anyways. Why couldn't another team (or the Pats) do it again if the worst that can happen is the loss of a 1st round pick? If you make the Super Bowl you are picking last in the 1st round anyways.

How could the Patriots know the "risks"? Was the punnishment for sideline videotaping published somewhere? Because, as far as I know, no team had ever received punnishment for this type of rule infraction. The Patriots had no idea of the severe consiquenses of thier actions. In the past they were only asked to stop. (by Green Bay I believe).... and some say this is the reason for the "memo" that went to teams reguarding these tactics.

You're talking as if a team is "guaranteed" to make it to the SuperBowl if they videotape signals / a walk through.

Write this down. "YOU WILL NEVER SEE, HEAR, SMELL, OF ANY NFL TEAM VIDEOTAPING ANYTHING THAT THEY AREN'T SUPOSED TO FROM THE PATRIOTS SPYGATE DAY FORWARD. EVER."

RC, please bring some sense to this issue.

GP you know that these people just like to complain so why argue with them? Your arguing with a foul mouth Dolphin fan that should be removed from this group because I for one do not appreciate the language and an Eagle fan that is hoping they strip the Pats of there trophy so Philly can finally have one.

Every Hall of Fame coach has come out and said that spygate is a joke and the Pats couldnt have used very much from these videos and if they did then the coaches on the other side are just dumb. Secondly the memo said for use in that game which everyone has refused to look at. Some coaches were caught waving to the camera so that doesnt seem like they really cared.

Most of the ones complaining are the same ones who say Barry is guilty but Roger is innocent.

well, I did read in someone's signature once:
"winning an argument on the internet is like winning a race at the Special Olympics... sure you won, but you're still retarded".

I like that.

Many of the arguements being thrown at you are over the top, but statements like you made above are the reason why. Every HOF Coach!?! Come on! Get a grip! This is still the tip, and I am afraid that it is going to get much worse for the Pats before it's over and also goodell.

Is Shula a HOF'er. I heard he feels terrible for BB.