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Old 05-05-2008, 11:33 AM   #1
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:52 PM   #2
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I agree McFadden is number one...but I am waiting to see what some feel on my #2. I simply don't buy into Stewart..as he is coming off of injury and the coach always seems against starting rookies. I also think Williams will pull carries. Mendenhall will share with FWP...so not as good a value. In fact the only other consideration for me is Forte...but Benson is still there for now, and they will push to try and make him worth the money spent.
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Smith is an interesting pick at #2. I'm going to hold back my comments on that pick until these next few go through so I don't skew anything.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:47 PM   #4
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as he is coming off of injury and the coach always seems against starting rookies.
Wha? I there even enough history to support that? Foster needed micro-fracture surgery as soon as he got off the plane and Williams was horrible in pass-protection as a rookie. He's still pretty not so good at it. I don't think Fox has anything against rookies just for the sake of being rookies.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:12 PM   #5
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Wha? I there even enough history to support that? Foster needed micro-fracture surgery as soon as he got off the plane and Williams was horrible in pass-protection as a rookie. He's still pretty not so good at it. I don't think Fox has anything against rookies just for the sake of being rookies.
Foster wasn't microfracture up front I believe, and even when healthy, he was not started until much later. It is a pattern.
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I agree McFadden is number one...but I am waiting to see what some feel on my #2. I simply don't buy into Stewart..as he is coming off of injury and the coach always seems against starting rookies. I also think Williams will pull carries. Mendenhall will share with FWP...so not as good a value. In fact the only other consideration for me is Forte...but Benson is still there for now, and they will push to try and make him worth the money spent.
I like Stewart at #2 over Smith. I believe it was CAR's own team physician that performed his surgery, and then gave the thumbs up to Fox and staff. So the injury would not be a concern for me. Also I think Williams and Bell will each pull carries so that's sort of a wash. And think CAR is more geared to run the ball than DET. I think Smith is an early 1st rounder, just like Stewart better.
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Foster wasn't microfracture up front I believe, and even when healthy, he was not started until much later. It is a pattern.
I don't by it, but regardless the clock is ticking on Fox. He doesn't have the luxury of sitting on Stewart.
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I personally don't care for Jonathan Stewart at all. He wouldn't have been my #2 pick or my #3 pick, even for trade value. I don't like what Carolina is doing right now. They continue to disregard the QB position despite the fact that Delhomme gets injured every year and continues to age as well, and now they are without a first round pick next year too. They're always one Delhomme or Smith injury away from the offense shutting down. As for Stewart, I've never cared for him as a runner and don't think he's a very complete back. His running style does not seem to suit the NFL well, and the injury problems are consistent. I would draft him 4th or 5th in a dynasty draft, and only for the trade value at that point. I have him as a bust.
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I don't by it, but regardless the clock is ticking on Fox. He doesn't have the luxury of sitting on Stewart.
If the clock is ticking, he should have spent more fixing the O-line than he has, and gotten the qb situation fixed...as Da Bomb points out. Stewart won't save his job.
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I personally wouldn't have taken Kevin Smith unless it was in the bottom half of a typical 1st round draft, and I would have to think seriously about it before even taking him then. Not a good blocker, and poor vision (can't find running lanes). Put up some good yards in conference USA, but was also tackled for no gain, or a loss almost 100 times last year alone. If he manages to get past the defensive line, a linebacker is gonna knocked him on his backside in the NFL
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Wow, that Chris Johnson pick was completely out of left field for me. I would've never seen that coming even at all. I thought he was a stretch of a day one pick, which made for an absolute joke of a round one pick. This is three years in a row now that Tennessee has spent a top 50 pick on a RB, and four if you count Vince "21 pass TDs in 28 games" Young. I have no confidence in anyone in that offense having much value, at least not consistently. I can honestly say that with my 1.7 looming, Johnson would not have even been on my list of people to consider.
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I drafted talent over situation, so I guess Miller was slamming you, MOJO.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:32 PM   #13
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If only this was a real draft in which I could have been given Mendenhall at #5!! He would be my pick at #2, and I wouldn't have to think about it. In a dynasty league I'm always taking talent over opportunity. In the end, talent will create opportunity, and Mendenhall will create his own opportunities, and that will be a dynamic RBBC with Parker. In fact, the oline in Pitt is more of a concern to me then Parker. I wouldn't be expecting outstanding year one numbers, but long term there may not be a better RB in this draft, DMac included.

Thoughts on the other picks so far:
DMac - While I love Mendenhall, this is a no brainer. talent and opportunity, should go #1 in every dynasty draft.

Smith - Starting to smell a lot like JJ Arrington to me......the more hype this kid gets, the more I want to stay away. Opportunities are nice, but you have to have the talent to get it done still, there is a reason he was there in the 3rd, the question now is can he over come them?

Stewart - Nice pick, but injury leaves me a bit concerned. I don't love his long term value, but I like it.

Johnson - agree with Bomb, didn't see this one coming and would not have been my pick here at all. That Tennessee backfield is a mess that I have been unfortunate enough to have to keep adding these rookies in dynasties in which I have the others. Enough is enough, I'm staying clear this time.
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I love it, it's just like a real fantasy draft. People can't believe how they "stole" a player

I liked Mendenhall, and couldn't fault anybody for taking him, but the talk of him being too one dimensional scares me away from him. You can't just run straight ahead in the NFL, and changing direction is this guy's weekness. Not sure how this guy can be tagged an ICON of anything at this point. Not to mention, he needs to be able to get through a minicamp without getting hurt before I am going to expect much of him.

As for the dislike of Johnson, fair enough. I will never be one who avoids a player from a certain team due to picks from previous years. I seen the pick of Johnson as a perfect fit to go along with Vince Young's talents, and given two years in the NFL, I think Fisher has a pretty good idea what he needs to do in order to build a successful offense around Young.
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I think Fisher has a pretty good idea what he needs to do in order to build a successful offense around Young.
wow, how can you say that??

It was Fisher that has drafted the following:
LenDale White
Chris Henry
Chris Johnson

To be honest, I don't think Fisher has a clue what he needs, b/c he can't make up his mind from year to year.

As far as Mendenhall, what injury history does he have that makes you worry about him any more then anyone else about getting through training camp? Statement was odd to me. I think the running style that concerns you will be a perfect fit in Pittsburgh. Think Jerome Bettis with speed. Watch, a Pittsburgh ICON is in the making here
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I love it, it's just like a real fantasy draft. People can't believe how they "stole" a player
And I didn't steal a damn thing.......you all gave it to me
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Wow, I was actually starting to trick myself into thinking that Mendenhall might have fallen all the way to 7. I agree with mostly everything Miller said. This guy was clearly the #2 RB in the draft, and for me he was far closer to #1 than he was to #3. I would have taken him as high as the 2nd pick in the draft. Yes he walks into a "bad" situation for now because he may not be a star or get a ton of work right away. But can you think of a better long term team for him to be part of? You've got a team that always focuses around smash mouth pounding the football, and they always have a good line and a top defense, so they're always running the ball to keep the league. Seriously how many better fits can you think of for that team? There aren't many. In the end, I agree with talent over opportunity. I had Kevin Smith as my #3 or 4 RB going into the draft and obviously love his situation, but I'd still take Mendenhall over him. My top 4 picks would have been McFadden, Mendenhall, Smith, Stewart in that order. Alphabetical is always the way go to.
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I left it behind like a half-eaten sandwich.
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Not sure what Jerome Bettis has to do with this. That was a whole coach ago, LOL.

Another thing I worry about with Mendenhall is the fear that he will be a one year wonder. Time will tell, but I don't see how he is the lock that so many think he is.
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At least Mendenhall had the one year. What about Chris Johnson? He had a decent year against an abysmal C-USA, only really 6 good games out of the 13 he played this season. Take a look at the numbers:

ESPN - Chris Johnson Stats, News, Photos - East Carolina Pirates - NCAA College Football

Look like a first round pick to you? I'd say not even out of the SEC or Pac 10. He had a great bowl game and one other huge game, and then he ran really fast at the combine. Give me a break. Hoorah crappy first round RBs who can only run fast and now make a lot of money because of it. Hope they enjoy getting tackled in the NFL.

See also Jones, Felix.
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