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Old 07-03-2008, 09:20 AM   #21
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I believe the Packers are thinking about the future and not about 08. Brett Favre actually hurts their future prospects of winning if he comes back. He slows their QB development another year or 2 and kills any off season momentum they have been building. I think the city of Green Bay is actually ready to let their hero rest and usher in the new generation of Packer football.
Brett needs to stay retired.
This was my opinion as well. But to me it depends on who the Packers feel their future is. If it is Rodgers, then I fully agree. But with the drafting of Brohm...I am not so sure they are sold on that. One more year of Favre, with Rodgers as back up and Brohm to learn from Brett, could be a solid future for Brohm in GB.
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True, but Favre said he's "itching to play." I'm pretty sure that the Packers would be fine with asking him to come sit the bench. But would he? The guy is a star, he's a stud, and he played his ass off last season. He still wants to keep his starting record going and I'm pretty sure that if GB came to him and said "hey Brett, we'd love for you to ride the pine," he would decline. He wants to compete, that's just how the guy ticks. I don't think he would go for it.

I do however think that is the route GB should take. "Brett, you know what you mean to us personally and as an organization. Hell your jersey is probably going to be retired. We love you and all of GB does. But right now, since you decided to leave us, we've moved on. We have named Arron Rodgers our starting QB and it would be wrong to the people that decided to stay with us last season to take away what was given to him. Again, we love you to death and will be more than willing to have you on the roster, but Rodgers will be our guy." Favre won't go for it, not in a million years. Not so long as he has that "itch."
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Who are we to tell a quarterback who was a top 10 quarterback in the league last year, and an MVP candidate that took his team to a 13-3 record that he shouldn't play football this year? I was one of the many who took this stance a couple years ago with this guy, and looking back, it was not a very smart stance to take.

Danny White and Steve Young waited around for quite a while before getting their starting job, why should we be concerned about Rodgers or Brohm having to wait another year or two?
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Old 07-03-2008, 03:58 PM   #24
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Danny White and Steve Young waited around for quite a while before getting their starting job, why should we be concerned about Rodgers or Brohm having to wait another year or two?
Because when you hold a team hostage for a month and then call a press conference to announce your retirement, you should stick with it. Oh yeah, and the fact that cried all the way through it doesn't help either. Then the team begins the rebuilding process, the after Favre years, and suddenly his name is stuck back in causing a distraction.
Let's say Brett does come back and play well for 2 more years. The he calls another press conference, cries as he re-retires, and the organization starts to rebuild over again. Is Rodgers gonna be looking over his shoulder all summer long in camp again waiting for Brett to come back and save the organization again?
How the hell do you think this makes him feel? His confidance level has to be shit right now. This is the guy who might end up being the starter for this team. It's just not good.
If Brett is really behind this news he is a selfish prick.
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ER, I agree with you, up until the selfish prick part, lol. I heard an interview Jim Rome had with Rodgers earlier last week. Rodgers was very professional and said that he doesn't think that GB will choose Favre over him if Brett decides to give it another year. He said that they've sat down with him and said "you're our man, you're our future, you're our quarterback." More than anything else, Brett and the GB organization are destroying Rodger's confidence. That's the issue.
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I could honestly care less about how Aaron Rodgers feels. If the Packers felt confident in him being the future, they wouldn't have drafted Brohm who is likely going to send him back to the bench within a year or two anyway.

Favre retired after a very emotional loss, and loss that ultimately came on a bad pass by him. There is no telling what all was going on in his head at the that, but obviously he felt at that point that retiring was best for the team.

As far as rebuilding goes, the Packers are not rebuilding. Hell, what team actually rebuilds anymore? This is the same team that it was last year.

Like I said in an earlier post, if the Packers think it is a bad thing to take him back, all they have to do is say "no", and if Favre truly wants to play for another year or two, he will be immediately getting phone calls from Minnesota and Chicago, as well as other places. And I will be laughing at the end of the season when the Packers are at best hoping for a wildcard spot while a division rival dominates them during the season thanks to the quarterback that they felt they didn't need.

If that scenario happens, Thompson better have a good resume put together because he wont be in Packerland much longer.
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Here's a scenario. Favre agrees to return as Rogers's backup and actually looks to like the better QB during training camp and the preseason. Does anyone smell a QB controversy in GB?
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IF Rodgers was the lock of the future, I would understand not allowing Favre back. However, I have seen NOTHING that says Rodgers is a lock. Remember he was a draft pick of the previous HC. Plus add in the draft pick of Brohm....and I am not so sure the Packers ARE concerned with Rodger's feelings.

That said, I also can understand some of what GB is doing. They have played this game with Favre for two years now. I am going, I am staying, I am going....but at no point should they release him and go anywhere else. Let him sit and stew...if he really wants to come back...then let him back...and tutor Brohm.
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I'm sorry, that's just wrong. Rodgers has done everything, and I mean everything right over the last couple of years. He has learned, studied, and had one of the greatest work ethics in the entire NFL. When he was called upon, he produced. He has been one of the most consistant QBs to ever hit the field, because when he does, he does not throw interceptions. Although Brett Favre wins games, you cannot say anything like that about him. All he does is throw picks. Arron Rodgers should be their starter next year. If not Arron, then Favre if he decides to come back, but to say that Brohm deserves the nod first, is ridiculous. You need to stick with Rodgers, he stuck with you, he worked with you, and his team respects the shit out of him. If you throw Brohm in, I'm afraid you'll ruin him forever. I think he can become a great QB, but like Rodgers, he needs to sit, and wait, behind Arron.
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The only thing Rodgers has done consistently is get injured after one day on the field. Two years, the same results. After one game, he leaves the field injured.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:15 PM   #31
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:31 PM   #32
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The only thing Rodgers has done consistently is get injured after one day on the field. Two years, the same results. After one game, he leaves the field injured.
What? The only injury he's had was a broken foot in 2006 during a loss to the Patriots. He then made a complete recovery and in 2007 had a 106.0 QB rating after playing in 2 games. He's had a few years to sit behind one of the greatest QBs ever, and has learned a lot. I don't see how one injury is enough to declare that he consistently getting injured. That was one time and has not been repeated yet.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:54 PM   #33
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He got injured in the Cowboys/Packers game last season....
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:04 PM   #34
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How much of that can you attribute to not taking the punishment?

Sitting on your ass for four years not taking any licks at game speed has to hurt
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I'm sorry, that's just wrong. Rodgers has done everything, and I mean everything right over the last couple of years. He has learned, studied, and had one of the greatest work ethics in the entire NFL. When he was called upon, he produced. He has been one of the most consistant QBs to ever hit the field, because when he does, he does not throw interceptions. Although Brett Favre wins games, you cannot say anything like that about him. All he does is throw picks. Arron Rodgers should be their starter next year. If not Arron, then Favre if he decides to come back, but to say that Brohm deserves the nod first, is ridiculous. You need to stick with Rodgers, he stuck with you, he worked with you, and his team respects the shit out of him. If you throw Brohm in, I'm afraid you'll ruin him forever. I think he can become a great QB, but like Rodgers, he needs to sit, and wait, behind Arron.
First, nothing in football is "wrong" its business.
Second, The current HC and staff has no ties to Rodgers...he was from the previous regime, again no loyalty.
Third, if they really were high on Favre...why that high a pick on Brohm, granted he did drop to him...but they did have other needs.
Lastly, as pointed out by Mojo and others, Rodgers hasn't been able to prove he can survive.

Again, I understand the mentality of having Rodgers get his chance to prove it. What I am merely pointing out is...I don't know the team FEELS he can prove it. It is why you take a Brohm that early. I also am much, much higher on Brohm than most here.

However, be clear here, if Favre returns he will start. If he repeats his season and then retires...the next year Brohm will beat out Rodgers. He is a much better qb than Rodgers IMO.
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Which came first, the chicken or the egg....

Who leaves football first, Methuselah Favre or Al Davis....
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All the franchise cares about is who gives them the best chance to win. Does anyone truly believe that Rodgers gives this team the best chance to win? Why dont they ask the season ticket holders who they would rather see behind center. Do you think they truly care about Rodgers feelings? Like all teams they care about winning. No matter who the starting QB is there will be more #4 Jerseys in the stands then anyone else.

Oh yeah does anyone remember a guy named Michael Jordan. Its a good thing he came back to win another three championships in a row. If the Pack dont take Favre back I hope he goes to the Vikes and goes into GB and cleans there clock. If he goes to Minny everyone better pick up Rice as he will be last years Jennings. Who believes Jennings will have the year this year as he had last year with Favre? Not a chance.
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How many years in a row are the Packers' fans willing to take this? Favre has threatened to retire for 4 years, only to announce that he's coming back during the off-season. He should, for the sake of the team and its fans, make a decision and stick with it. Sure he could still play, and would likely make the Pack a viable SB contender, but will he have his passion for the game, or will he be going through the motions?
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Retired QB Brett Favre is privately working out according to his Brother.

Also the Packers have plenty of cap room if Favre were come to play this year, just so ya know.
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I was fine with the retirement but I am pumped to hav e him play for the Pack again as opposed to playing anywhere else. If he does, I will support him, but if he returns to the Pack, I will be really happy. It sounds like the Coach wants him, the players want him, the fans want him, and Thompson wants to play craps!
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