$20 Million to stay away from football, and if he does report to camp, he will be given individual drills, no team activities.

This is the management/coaching staff that says out of the other side of their mouth that they would welcome Brett Favre back.

I am kind of curious about the $20 Million offer to "not play", and would like to hear Goodell's thoughts on that type of proposal.

At this point, Favre has to be pissed. Goodell should reinstate Favre today, and Favre should be on a plane and ready for practice Friday morning.

Up until now, I have at least seen the Packers side of it, just didn't really agree with it. Now, with the double sided talking that the organization is doing, I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of Brett Favre in Wisconsin to call this team's bluff.

I created a new thread, because at this point, Favre is coming back, so the discussion of whether he will or wont or if he should is pretty much history. Consider this Brett Favre, part deux

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the Green Bay Packers, driven to the brink of desperation in their ongoing spat with QB Brett Favre, have discussed internally the possibility of trading the quarterback within the NFC North Division. A source close to the situation told the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday that the Packers were considering seeking a deal with one of their division rivals, most probably the Minnesota Vikings or Chicago Bears, if backed into a corner by the National Football League and public sentiment. On Monday, GM Ted Thompson said flatly that the Packers would not trade Favre within the division. But having no prospects of trading Favre anywhere else and under increasing pressure from Commissioner Roger Goodell, the Packers are considering doing almost the unthinkable: not only trading Favre, but also to the Vikings, a team that will be their opponent Sept. 8 on opening night at Lambeau Field. An NFL source said he understood from the Packers that trading within the NFC North would be a last resort. They still hope to persuade Favre to be amenable to what the team regards as realistic trade possibilities with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and New York Jets. The New York Jets wanted to talk to Favre, but their efforts were rebuffed by Favre, the source said. The Jets appear to have little hopes of luring Favre.

This soap opera gets more bizarre every day.

I'm rooting for a trade to the Bears. The Vikings would be too good for my liking (although that MNF opener would be very interesting). The Bears would improve, but still not be a serious threat, and it would really add some heat to the rivalry.

Favre to the Vikes makes them an automatic SB contender. It would give Jackson a mentor to learn the game from and make him a lot better as well.
This said, I doubt the Packers would consider trading Favre to the Vikes. As was said, it would make them too good.

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The Packers should just welcome Brett back with open arms and get this marriage back to Ever After.

Every off-season the Packers can anticipate the annual question of commitment to this relationship.

Rename the frozen tundra Favre Field. Replace the cheese head hats with big yellow "4's".

The Green Bay Packers franchise should change everything and do anything to please its fickle Queen. After all, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

All this Fav-re talk.
Can someone please EXPLAIN to me why GB is intent on not letting Farve play for another team?
GB is moving on without Farve, ok, we get it. The guy comes out of retirement, he IS going to play....
In my eyes GB just obtained a tradable commodity that they didn't have a few months ago. Trade his arse to the highest bidder, if you don't want him in your div, trade him to the highest bidding non-division rival.
If GB comes away with the same team they planned on this season AND an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick next season, WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?
Why would they let him rot on the bench? or Release him and get nothing? OR PAY him to stay retired? WTF???

I think what this all boils down to is Ted Thompson trying to keep his job. Here are the scenarios that are likely to play out if Thompson does what seems to be the easy decision.

A. They trade him. Brett goes to another team and leads them to the playoffs. Meanwhile the Packers struggle with Rodgers. Thompson gets fired.

B. They release him. Brett goes and shacks up with the Bears or Vikings. Now the Packers have to play their legend 2 times a year. Brett wins both contests and creates discontent with GB's biggest star ever. Thompson gets fired.

C. They welcome him back. This option has 2 different endings. Both of them start with Brett showing up in camp and creating a media zoo. he competes for the starting QB job and
1. Wins the job. Brett takes the helm of what we all know is his team. They do ok, probably make the playoffs but can't get that super bowl. Next year Aaron becomes a free agent and bolts for the highest bidder. He becomes a solid NFL QB. The following year Brett actually retires and GB can't solve their QB issue now. Thompson gets fired.
2. The Packers go with Rodgers to spite Favre. By week 2 Rodgers has a down game and Packers nation is calling for Brett. The QB controversy goes on all year and they miss the playoffs. Thompson gets fired.

They have two great Qb's!!

• -- Bears' OC Turner Shuns Brett Favre --
  Thu Jul 31, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
• The Sun-Times reports the Green Bay Packers desperately want QB Brett Favre to stay away from training camp and from the sounds of it, the Bears want nothing to do with him, either. ''Not right now,'' OC Ron Turner said today when asked if he could envision the future first-ballot Hall of Famer in a Bears' uniform this season. ''Not with what we have. I like our quarterbacks. That's not to say he's not a great player, he's one of the greatest players of all time. I love him. I love watching him. He's a great player. Not at this time and in this situation. We've got two good quarterbacks.''
  

Did Jimmy come out of retirement?

The Packers need to trade Rodgers. What a bunch of idiots. I am so glad that Thompson no longer works for the Seahawks.

If Fav-re had stayed retired, the Pack mis the playoffs as expected. Thompson has his built in excuse since this is Rodgers first season as a starter. Thompson keeps his job.

If this were the Patriots and it were Tom Brady 5+ years from now, I'd have to think the Pats would gladly take draft picks for the old coot .... and get to choose which team he went to via trade. And no one would lose thier job.

I agree 100%. The problem is though is that Brett has that damn clause in his contract that he has to agree to any trade. If not, he'd be in Tampa bay or NY already.

He has his heart set on Minnesota.

Yeah he does, and he is going to force the issue. Theyve got to think minus Rodgers theyve got a chance at having a Super Bowl contender up there.

Move the guy and get on with it. Minnehaha will pay a kings ransom to get Brett Favre and the accompanying title that should come with it.

God...just imagine him throwing to wide open Vikings WRs..giddy that they now have a QB that can get them the ball...and all those yards and TDs AP/Taylor will pile up as teams are forced to respect the pass and they get gashed by the best run offense in the NFL.

Thompson can win a Super Bowl next year....either for Green Bay or Minnesota

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No way in hell Green Bay wins the Super Bowl if Favre was to play for them this year. NO WAY. They couldn't even get to the Super Bowl last year and that was before this whole mess.

Honestly, I'd give the Vikings a realistic shot at winning the division even if the Pack had Favre.

No way in hell a team that has jelled with its true leader at the helm who went 13-4 last and brings it all back and then some has a chance to win the Super Bowl? Outstanding logic.

How Geling would they be is Favre walked into Training Camp tomorrow?

I think they may have lost that magic from last year.

Oh yeah, and they're not even the best team in the NFC.

Oh yeah, and there's multiple AFC teams that are better than them.

So once again, the Pack has no chance of a Super Bowl with Favre at the helm.

If the Pack would allow it, they would be fine. At this point Rodgers is a wasted pick until proven otherwise. Brohm will surpass him in all likelyhood.

It wasnt magic. It was a young team with the right players in place.

Really? I was wrong, they went 14-4. They made it farther in the playoffs than Dallas. They lost to the Super Bowl Champion. Yep. They suck.

Makes sense. I mean, after all, the Giants just got killed by the Pats last...oh yeah, the Giants won the Super Bowl over the "clearly superior" AFC team. Who gives a fuck if there are "multiple" AFC teams who are better....only one AFC team gets to the Super Bowl. No triple threats in football.

Your right.

No you're definetely right.

No distractions whatsoever.

No matter if they're not the best team in football or even the best team in the NFC.


I would gladly bet you anything you wanted and give you 20 to 1 odds that the Packers will not win the Super Bowl if Favre comes back.

IMO, the Vikings are going to win that division this year, whether Favre plays for GB or not.

its an impossible bet to place because the scenario necessary to take the bet is an impossibility.