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Old 08-22-2008, 09:32 PM   #21
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Alex Smith I think is in the worst starters thread already. JT may end up there...time will tell, but at this point, Nolan has nothing to lose.
I think the point I was trying to make is that Smith is probably at least as good as JT, but JT has the advantage of already knowing the system. If the situation were different and Nolan's job wasn't on the line, I think they give Smith a fair shot. That's all.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:35 PM   #22
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If you ever hear me apologize for Alex Smith please shoot me.
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The point being Alex is on his fourth OC in four years.

You'll understand better when Alex goes to an organization with its head out of its ass.
Where you want the bullet??
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Where you want the bullet??
Good point.

As you tie the blindfold, in my defense I think you're misreading what I mistyped.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:01 PM   #25
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I think the point I was trying to make is that Smith is probably at least as good as JT, but JT has the advantage of already knowing the system. If the situation were different and Nolan's job wasn't on the line, I think they give Smith a fair shot. That's all.
'Grrr...damn site ate my post.

Basically you are making Mike and Miller's points...but you make your own.

Yes, the fact that O'sullivan knows the system and is playing well in it makes him the right choice for a team to win now.
No, I don't think anyone feels O'Sullivan is the future.
Yes, A.Smith has had to go through 4 OC changes.
No, he still has not shown he was worth the draft slot he got. So it proves they reached way too early....due to need, rather than talent.

So...we agree O'Sullivan fits the need of the HC, and is not the future for Niners. Where we disagree is that A.Smith ever really was the future. I don't think he was.
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'Grrr...damn site ate my post.

Basically you are making Mike and Miller's points...but you make your own.

Yes, the fact that O'sullivan knows the system and is playing well in it makes him the right choice for a team to win now.
No, I don't think anyone feels O'Sullivan is the future.
Yes, A.Smith has had to go through 4 OC changes.
No, he still has not shown he was worth the draft slot he got. So it proves they reached way too early....due to need, rather than talent.

So...we agree O'Sullivan fits the need of the HC, and is not the future for Niners. Where we disagree is that A.Smith ever really was the future. I don't think he was.
I have no idea why I even undertook such an argument.

Perhaps I didn't realize I was defending a player whom I have never liked and blame Mel Kiper Jr. for getting him drafted first overall.

Braylon Edwards would have been a better pick.
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Perhaps I didn't realize I was defending a player whom I have never liked and blame Mel Kiper Jr. for getting him drafted first overall.

Braylon Edwards would have been a better pick.
Agreed, completely.
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Something to remember while we say that J.T. O'Sullivan is not the future for the 49'ers.

Rich Gannon was merely a 4th round pick in 1987, and for the most part a journeyman backup for the first 10 years of his career. Things clicked, he landed in the right system and made 4 straight pro-bowl appearances toward the end of his career.

Not saying this is the path that O'Sullivan is on, but the fact of the matter is the guy is playing well, and played well enough to take the job from a #1 pick.

What can he do at the NFL level? We have no idea. He has never really gotten any significant playing time at this level.

He isn't a quitter though, he has stuck it out as a backup, and happily took trips to NFL Europe and dominated.
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Something to remember while we say that J.T. O'Sullivan is not the future for the 49'ers.

Rich Gannon was merely a 4th round pick in 1987, and for the most part a journeyman backup for the first 10 years of his career. Things clicked, he landed in the right system and made 4 straight pro-bowl appearances toward the end of his career.

Not saying this is the path that O'Sullivan is on, but the fact of the matter is the guy is playing well, and played well enough to take the job from a #1 pick.

What can he do at the NFL level? We have no idea. He has never really gotten any significant playing time at this level.

He isn't a quitter though, he has stuck it out as a backup, and happily took trips to NFL Europe and dominated.
**cough, cough** Warner**cough, cough**
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Its not Smiths fault. Four OC's in 4 years is terrible. He just got drafted to the wrong team. I'm sure he can be successful on another team with a consistent OC. Lets face it, Nolan is on the hotseat and he must go with the best QB get them wins and right now JTO seems to be the guy. I think the 49ers makes some noise this year, maybe not superbowl noise, but perhaps playoff noise. Lets all remember, Steve Young came into SF with a trashy resume to and we all know where that went.
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JTO is going to be the biggest waiver wire guy this year but it will take a few weeks for people to bite. It took people a few weeks last year to bite on Derek Anderson and I truly see JTO being that guy this year.
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In any event it makes San Francisco more exicting to follow.

How does this affect Isaac Bruce?
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In any event it makes San Francisco more exicting to follow.

How does this affect Isaac Bruce?
Not sure it affects Isaac Bruce. Bruce does bring a hall-of-fame target to JTO which can open up the offense and give JTO much more options. The running game with Frank Gore seems to have fired up once again as well as it looked really good against the Bears. We'll just have to see how JTO does in the regular season.
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JTO is going to be the biggest waiver wire guy this year but it will take a few weeks for people to bite. It took people a few weeks last year to bite on Derek Anderson and I truly see JTO being that guy this year.
I for one will be keeping an eye on him, not just cause I'm a niner fan...LoL. I'm even thinking about dropping Gerrard for JTO on my fantasy team, only because reports show Gerrard hasn't been playing that well and I have Brees to fall back on.
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I wouldnt drop Garrard for him. Keep in mind his top recievers have not been playing. All should be good when they play.
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:06 PM   #36
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Yeah....even Brady would look bad throwing to a bunch of practice squad fodder against starting NFL DBs
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