Rudi Johnson Cut and Lamont Jordan to be Cut ?

Coachnorm · 08-26-2008, 10:07 PM

Sorry for the confusion. I think Housh will be fine. I haven't really worried about his contract or injury issues much at all. I think he will be ready to go and produce well when the season starts. I do think with Chads injury issues that they have been purposely keeping him on the backburners for safekeeping, so to speak.

I am old and must admit that I don't keep up with all the newest nicknames and abreveology. When I see TJ I don't think of Housh. I think of NY Jets RB Thomas Jones. I am more worried about Thomas Jones at this point than Housh as far as fantasy impact goes. Housh will be fine but Thomas Jones I am not so sure about. Obviously, I need to start a Thomas Jones thread.

Coachnorm · 08-27-2008, 07:34 AM

Watch Thursday Nights Pre Season game vs The Colts. Apparently Rudi Johnson will play and have the chance to win the starters spot with an impressive performance. It will be Rudis first pre season action and a chance to prove "he's a better ballplayer"

gmrcharity · 08-27-2008, 08:23 AM

The same thing is out there for Jordan also. He will be in the next preseason game to see if he will make the team. He admitted that he has been nagged by an injury and that is why he hasnt played in the last two preseason games.

Unless the injury is severe, I cannot see the Patriots cutting him. When he practices they all say he is very impressive. I guess we will see soon enough.

Phicinfan · 08-27-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Jones

with so much going on in this thread, did you mean CJ?

No, TJ's contract ends this year. He will be a UFA, so expectation is they may tag him. He has been the good soldier and not made it an issue..but alot of folks are speculating he has missed most of camp and Pre-season games on this "injury" due to the contract issue as a silent protest.

Phicinfan · 08-27-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coachnorm

Watch Thursday Nights Pre Season game vs The Colts. Apparently Rudi Johnson will play and have the chance to win the starters spot with an impressive performance. It will be Rudis first pre season action and a chance to prove "he's a better ballplayer"

Rumors are flying they are using this to showcase him to other teams to get trade value. FYI

Phicinfan · 08-28-2008, 09:20 PM

Well, it seems a lock now that Rudi is gone. Whether by trade or Cut I think you won't see Rudi in a Cincy uniform. He says he is healthy, but he did not play at all in the final pre-season or for that matter any pre-season game.

Bye Rudi

Hello Perry (for as long as you stay healthy...)

Miller · 08-28-2008, 10:18 PM

As a Bengals fan I hate to see him go. Rudi has always been a class act, and one of the good guys on the team. Hate to hear him state the things he did yesterday, but in the end, I agree, he's gone.

Now, as a fantasy fan who has Perry in 7 of 8 leagues....

gmrcharity · 08-29-2008, 03:14 AM

With Kevin Faulk facing a 1 game suspension, It is doubtful Lamont Jordan will be cut. At least for another week

)

Remote Controller · 08-29-2008, 07:16 AM

I'm hearing they are a bit concerned with Perry's pass blocking and Palmer getting killed. This is a very weird situation in Cincy. Stay Tuned, because it will come in to focus real soon.

Miller · 08-29-2008, 07:18 AM

Not sure about them, but I'm damn sure worried about Perry's pass block against the bliz, he's struggled to pick it up, but so has the O-Line.

Here is the recent article on Rudi off bengals.com

News - Rudi: Stay tuned - Cincinnati Bengals

Phicinfan · 08-29-2008, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miller

Not sure about them, but I'm damn sure worried about Perry's pass block against the bliz, he's struggled to pick it up, but so has the O-Line.

Here is the recent article on Rudi off bengals.com

News - Rudi: Stay tuned - Cincinnati Bengals

Hey, I just had a thought, and this is PURE SPECULATION on my part.

What if Bengals were to trade Rudi Johnson to Houston, and get Walters in return at Wr? It would supposedly help a very merky situation at Rb for Houston...and Walters is a former Bengal and familiar with the offense. Things to make you go HMMMMMM.....

Da Bomb · 08-29-2008, 08:45 AM

sure, like HMMM why would the bengals trade a competent rb for a wr that is just good enough to get cut the second he fumbles or makes a mistake any time in his entire career?

Phicinfan · 08-29-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Bomb

sure, like HMMM why would the bengals trade a competent rb for a wr that is just good enough to get cut the second he fumbles or makes a mistake any time in his entire career?

Where in the heck is that opinion from? Kevin Walters had a pretty decent year for Houston as the #2 wr, and was a great sticks mover while in cincy. Just curious why the sudden negative feedback on him?

**edit** oh, and by competant...do you mean able to sit a bench well??

Orgazmo · 08-29-2008, 09:04 AM

Maybe Cincy could pick up Joe Horn. He'd be cheap, and may have some familiarity of the offense through his work with Hue Jackson.

Da Bomb · 08-29-2008, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phicinfan

Where in the heck is that opinion from? Kevin Walters had a pretty decent year for Houston as the #2 wr, and was a great sticks mover while in cincy. Just curious why the sudden negative feedback on him?

**edit** oh, and by competant...do you mean able to sit a bench well??

haha fair enough. i just dont feel like walter is worth much of a crap, but i admittedly havent seen him play much. but maybe neither is rudi at this point of his career.

ExperiencedRookie · 08-29-2008, 10:43 AM

why would Cincy need another WR?

gmrcharity · 08-29-2008, 10:56 AM

Because Chad Johnson is 1 hit away from being out for the year.

Phicinfan · 08-29-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmrcharity

Because Chad Johnson is 1 hit away from being out for the year.

and Chris Henry is out for 4 games due to suspension.
Housh has missed most of pre-season with Hammy
Rookies are banged up.
Others wrs are nothing great.

Miller · 08-29-2008, 11:12 PM

Interesting Take by Mo on thelotD.com

Quote:

SOME RUDI THOUGHTS
We talked a lot about Rudi today. My question is simply this:
How could anyone express any confidence about Rudi Johnson's ability to be productive and how could one make the case that he's more productive than the other running backs currently on the roster?
The fact that the O-line sucks right now doesn't mean that we don't have this discussion. So the Bengals shouldn't retain a tailback? Just let anyone carry it? Pull Harold Green out of retirement and lug it 30 times a game? I know the line sucks. They still have to make a decision at running back.
Chris Perry isn't what I'd call "reliable." He's been hurt. I get it. But I've seen him play football this year. He's looked good. Not Corey Dillon againt Denver good, but good. In a year where Rudi, according to his coach had something to prove, he has proven what? That his uniform fits?
Kenny Watson is a backup running back. He's never going to be a workhorse back, but he's a steady backup. And he can catch balls out of the backfied. Rudi isn't a workhorse back and his cap value exceeds $4 million. Kenny makes less than a million.
DeDe Dorsey has issues too. He's fumbled a lot in camp. He's had injury issues. He also helps on special teams. He's also shiftier. Special teams help and shifty aren't words often associated with Rudi J.
Really, at this point, can you convince me that Rudi is more productive or cost effective than James Johnson?
We're not exactly sorting through a bunch of future hall of famers here, but Rudi isn't close to being the best option.
Cutting Rudi is would be a $2 million dollar cap hit. You and I know Mike doesn't want to take it, but would he rather take it or pay Rudi the full $3.2 mill (the cap value is actually around 4.9) to be a backup?
Of course this assumes Mike doesn't make Marvin install Rudi as the starter next week, which if that happens any shred of credibility this team has left is shot.
This may sound like a rip job of Rudi. It's not. I love the guy. Top ten favorite Bengal of all-time. He has a special place in this team's history as the featured back when this team became relevant. And if they keep him, I want him to have a huge year. If he goes elsewhere, I'd love to see him have a productive season, but you're just going to have a tough time convincing me Rudi is worth keeping around at this point.

ggermanctl06 · 08-30-2008, 01:20 PM

News - Agent: Rudi cut - Cincinnati Bengals

Looks like no more Rudi...in Cincy at least.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Lamont Jordan being scouted	gmrcharity	Outlaw NFL Talk	5	07-10-2008 09:35 AM
Lamont Jordan Out For Season With Torn MCL	STAFF	Outlaw NFL Talk	0	11-19-2006 07:00 PM
thoughts on LaMont Jordan???	PacoDelRio99	Outlaw NFL Talk	2	08-28-2005 08:42 AM
Who's high on LaMont Jordan ?	madberzerk	Outlaw NFL Talk	10	08-22-2005 08:27 PM
Lamont Jordan or Steven Jackson?	The Hooligan	Outlaw NFL Talk	8	08-03-2005 11:44 PM


08-26-2008, 10:07 PM	#41
Coachnorm Bloggin' Outlaw Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 12,349 vCash: 1200817 Donate Blog Entries: 14	Sorry for the confusion. I think Housh will be fine. I haven't really worried about his contract or injury issues much at all. I think he will be ready to go and produce well when the season starts. I do think with Chads injury issues that they have been purposely keeping him on the backburners for safekeeping, so to speak. I am old and must admit that I don't keep up with all the newest nicknames and abreveology. When I see TJ I don't think of Housh. I think of NY Jets RB Thomas Jones. I am more worried about Thomas Jones at this point than Housh as far as fantasy impact goes. Housh will be fine but Thomas Jones I am not so sure about. Obviously, I need to start a Thomas Jones thread.


08-27-2008, 07:34 AM	#42
Coachnorm Bloggin' Outlaw Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 12,349 vCash: 1200817 Donate Blog Entries: 14	Watch Thursday Nights Pre Season game vs The Colts. Apparently Rudi Johnson will play and have the chance to win the starters spot with an impressive performance. It will be Rudis first pre season action and a chance to prove "he's a better ballplayer"


08-27-2008, 08:23 AM	#43
gmrcharity Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Africa Posts: 1,956 vCash: 2202548 Donate	The same thing is out there for Jordan also. He will be in the next preseason game to see if he will make the team. He admitted that he has been nagged by an injury and that is why he hasnt played in the last two preseason games. Unless the injury is severe, I cannot see the Patriots cutting him. When he practices they all say he is very impressive. I guess we will see soon enough.


08-28-2008, 09:20 PM	#46
Phicinfan Deputy Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 11,137 vCash: 132484 Donate	Well, it seems a lock now that Rudi is gone. Whether by trade or Cut I think you won't see Rudi in a Cincy uniform. He says he is healthy, but he did not play at all in the final pre-season or for that matter any pre-season game. Bye Rudi Hello Perry (for as long as you stay healthy...)


08-28-2008, 10:18 PM	#47
Miller Who Me? Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 16,094 vCash: 59048128 Donate Blog Entries: 28	As a Bengals fan I hate to see him go. Rudi has always been a class act, and one of the good guys on the team. Hate to hear him state the things he did yesterday, but in the end, I agree, he's gone. Now, as a fantasy fan who has Perry in 7 of 8 leagues....


08-29-2008, 03:14 AM	#48
gmrcharity Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Africa Posts: 1,956 vCash: 2202548 Donate	With Kevin Faulk facing a 1 game suspension, It is doubtful Lamont Jordan will be cut. At least for another week )


08-29-2008, 07:16 AM	#49
Remote Controller Yeah.......That's me! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Top of the Texas Panhandle Posts: 4,172 vCash: 371060 Donate	I'm hearing they are a bit concerned with Perry's pass blocking and Palmer getting killed. This is a very weird situation in Cincy. Stay Tuned, because it will come in to focus real soon.


08-29-2008, 07:18 AM	#50
Miller Who Me? Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 16,094 vCash: 59048128 Donate Blog Entries: 28	Not sure about them, but I'm damn sure worried about Perry's pass block against the bliz, he's struggled to pick it up, but so has the O-Line. Here is the recent article on Rudi off bengals.com News - Rudi: Stay tuned - Cincinnati Bengals


08-29-2008, 08:45 AM	#52
Da Bomb Richest Vman Alive Forum Leader Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,256 vCash: 173541033 Donate Blog Entries: 18	sure, like HMMM why would the bengals trade a competent rb for a wr that is just good enough to get cut the second he fumbles or makes a mistake any time in his entire career?


08-29-2008, 09:04 AM	#54
Orgazmo Outlaw Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,349 vCash: 40976 Donate	Maybe Cincy could pick up Joe Horn. He'd be cheap, and may have some familiarity of the offense through his work with Hue Jackson.


08-29-2008, 10:43 AM	#56
ExperiencedRookie Outlaw Join Date: May 2008 Location: Omaha Nebraska Posts: 1,537 vCash: 85057 Donate	why would Cincy need another WR?


08-29-2008, 10:56 AM	#57
gmrcharity Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Africa Posts: 1,956 vCash: 2202548 Donate	Because Chad Johnson is 1 hit away from being out for the year.


08-30-2008, 01:20 PM	#60
ggermanctl06 German Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 645 vCash: 61421 Donate	News - Agent: Rudi cut - Cincinnati Bengals Looks like no more Rudi...in Cincy at least.