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Old 08-26-2008, 10:50 PM   #1
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Ryan Grant to See Less Carries a Game

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“I don’t think he needs to carry it 30 times for us,” McCarthy said. “I don’t think he needs to carry it 25. I think 20 would be great. You have to be smart with a guy. You get him 20 carries a game, that’s being smart and productive. You can get him the ball some other ways through the passing game.

“I don’t want the guy to be a one- or two-year flash and be done with him. History supports that.”
on the + side for those in PPR leagues:

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One of the ways McCarthy plans to increase Grant’s role without subjecting him to the pounding he takes running into 300-pound defensive linemen is to incorporate him more into the passing game. Last year, Grant caught 30 passes but had more than two catches in only four of the 18 games in which he appeared.

Playing with Aaron Rodgers, who is more likely to dump the ball off than Brett Favre, Grant could wind up being among the team leaders in receptions this year.
JS Online: McCarthy plans to lighten Grant?s load
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:55 PM   #2
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this is not news. 30 carries a game would have been 480 carries on the season, an obscene statistic that never wouldve happened. if he gets "only" 20 carries a game, he will still amass 320 carries and be in the top 5 or possibly lead the league in carries.

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Old 08-26-2008, 10:57 PM   #3
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I fully expect the Packers to break from the ludicrous offensive style they've shown in the preseason.

The first step will be to get the running game some respect.

Until that happens this plan of McCarthy's won't materialize.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:47 PM   #4
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I would look for more around the 15 carry/game average. Maybe a little higher at first, then dropping. I think you are going to see much more Brandon Jackson than most people assume.
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So if the coach says 20, I'm guessing right along with Mike, about 15 is the intended target, toss in another 10-12 for Jackson each week. This will be a RBBC, and Grant will break your heart if your taking him in the first 3 rounds.
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brandon jackson is a worthless turd. hes never proven he should be on the field at an nfl level, and he barely even proved it at the college level. he cant block and hes not explosive. ryan grant will be just fine.
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And what did Ryan Grant do his first year in the league?

I think we should give Jackson a little more of chance, given he was hurt last year.

Also, remember, Ryan Grant will be getting hit earlier and more often this year. There will be more eyes on the running game now, since there is less fear of the passing game.
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brandon jackson is a worthless turd. hes never proven he should be on the field at an nfl level, and he barely even proved it at the college level. he cant block and hes not explosive. ryan grant will be just fine.
heh.."a turd" Yeah I'm not a huge Jackson fan either. He'd be starting if he was worth it, but as it stands...Grant is still the starter.
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this is not news.
True....not exactly news to you but maybe to others.



Half the reason I posted it is because I knew the thread title would get a rise out of you.
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True....not exactly news to you but maybe to others.



Half the reason I posted it is because I knew the thread title would get a rise out of you.


This is news indeed, just another RED flag on a player who is becoming vastly over-rated.
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lol so what about the comment that grant could wind up among the team leaders in receptions? what would that be, 60 or 70 catches? i guess thats not worth anything.

by the way, grant had 14 or 15 carries three times last season, lower than his usual 20ish. in those three games, he had 101 yards, 94 yards, and 100 yards. he also had 1, 2, and 1 TD in those games. anyone here ok with a RB getting only 15 carries a game if he's going to average 18 points a game?

i guess that 15 carries a week are no good unless a guy is explosive enough to break off a long run from time to time. nevermind the fact that grant ripped off a run of 23 yards or longer in each of his final 8 games last season.

i didnt even know who ryan grant was before that denver MNF game last year. i got home, flipped on the tv, and was sure they had a typo on the stats. but the guy produced in a huge way when given an opportunity, and he did so where no other RB did in the same system last year. im willing to let him prove that last year was not a fluke since its really the only thing we all know about him.
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and he did so where no other RB did in the same system last year. im willing to let him prove that last year was not a fluke since its really the only thing we all know about him.
Jackson ran for over a hundred and caught a few passes in the last game last year, while Grant sat out.

I tend to think the Packer line figured out the new zone blocking scheme as the year went on and Grant was simply in the right place at the right time.
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Grant is facing the same RB's from last year in Jackson and Morency. I don't see any reason to believe they'll be anything more this year.

It will be interesting to see Ryan play a full 16 games, which is probably where the worry lies.
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Jackson ran for over a hundred and caught a few passes in the last game last year, while Grant sat out.

I tend to think the Packer line figured out the new zone blocking scheme as the year went on and Grant was simply in the right place at the right time.
Good point.

I wonder why Jackson didn't get the nod once Grant fumbled twice against Seattle in the playoffs?
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It will be interesting to see Ryan play a full 16 games, which is probably where the worry lies.
It'll be more interesting to see how he does when Rodgers goes down.
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Good point.

I wonder why Jackson didn't get the nod once Grant fumbled twice against Seattle in the playoffs?
Jackson was raw as hell. Too much of a blocking liability. Still is - for the moment.
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It'll be more interesting to see how he does when Rodgers goes down.
O, that kool aid.

Rodgers ain't going down.
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Jackson was raw as hell. Too much of a blocking liability. Still is - for the moment.
It would be nice to see Jackson play himself into a serious role. Holding my breath, I'm not.
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Jackson ran for over a hundred and caught a few passes in the last game last year, while Grant sat out.

I tend to think the Packer line figured out the new zone blocking scheme as the year went on and Grant was simply in the right place at the right time.
... against the lions. and even there, it took a big 46 yard run to have a decent game. there were no TDs and outside of that one big play, jackson had 19 carries for a whopping 67 yards. a little over 3.5 ypc, right about where he was at the rest of the season.

so jackson's one good play proves that grant was a fluke?
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... against the lions. and even there, it took a big 46 yard run to have a decent game. there were no TDs and outside of that one big play, jackson had 19 carries for a whopping 67 yards. a little over 3.5 ypc, right about where he was at the rest of the season.

so jackson's one good play proves that grant was a fluke?
No, but it disproves your statement that no other RB on the team produced in the same system.

Oakland switched to ZBS and had a very good running game with the same o-line that made Art Shell and his bed n breakfast coordinator expendable. They actually made Justin Fargas relevant! In their first year under Gibb's zbs, they lead the league in rushing (or near to it, I'm too lazy to look).

Maybe Grant's the goods, but this run system makes a lot of guys look like the goods. I'm simply not going to pay the ADP for potentially Sam Gado 2.0.
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