Talk about the most underrated back in the league.

1577 yards rushing, 8 TDs, 421 receiving, 2 TD's, only 1 fumble

This guy is going to end up with close to 2000 rushing yards, over 500 receiving yards, and he is now in double digits in scoring with a total of 10 TD's.

I honestly expected Jacobs to be more of a factor in the running game than this (although he has taken 6 TD's from Barber), but..... When you got a good thing, its pretty crazy to take him out.

I was completely wrong about Barber going into the season. I thought for sure he would fall back to earth after last season's performance, but he's gotten his stuff together and has handled his fumbling problems. Helps that Eli has matured a little and is forcing Ds to not only just key on him. And where did Brandon Jacobs end up this season? Decent year, but I expected a lot more from him.

Not Me, I've been on the Giants bandwagon all season. I've been banking on them to win the Super Bowl over Peyton's boys.

This thread's title needs to be changed:

NFL leading rushers

Done. Now we can talk about whoever is in the lead.

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Cool, that means we get to talk about Shaun Alexander instead of Tomlinson, James, & that other guy, uh, Ronde's brother for New Jersey.

Well...we all know who would be leading IF he was the full time back all season...........


Larry Johnson

Possibly, up their with Alexander in TD's too.

Definately hats off to barber this year. Hes a class act on and off the field. I actually watched an interesting interview after Feeley blew those three Fg's where Barber stated that it wasnt Feeleys fault as much as the teams fault for not going over to him and building him back up. He stated that it was a difficult descision as some FG kickers like to be left to themselves and some need the support. Barber again stated that no one attempted to help Feeley shake it off.

you mean the frontrunner for MVP?

Who, Shaun Alexander or Peyton Manning? Since this thread is about the NFL's leading rusher, Shaun Alexander, I will assume it is him.


BTW: that dude that plays for New Jersey who has 1/3 as many TDs, less yards, less wins, less yards per carry, and more turnovers than Alexander doesn't even belong in the MVP discussion.

More turnovers? Tiki Barber has one fumble this year and Alexander has 4. tiki Barber has over 2000 total yards...a good 300 plus better than Alexander. Yeah Alexander has a shit load of TD's..so what? Beating up on Arizona, St. Louis, San Francisco, Houston and Tennessee isn't very impressive as was pointed out today on ESPN radio. Whenever Alexander would play a good defense he would get shut down. Meanwhile Tiki has downright sodomized teams left and right AND when it counted...with the playoffs and division on the line. On top of that he has been doing it when his team's defense has become hit with injuries and when his sophomore QB has begun to struggle.

Sorry CHawk the MVP talk is about Tiki not Alexander. If its between those two then Tiki gets it hands down. Peyton will split votes between Carson Palmer and Tom Brady and plus you have about 3 different MVP's on the Colts anyway. So if anyone is ready to unseat Peyton as MVP its tiki...not Shaun "I love soft defenses" Alexander.

Plus when it comes to class Tiki once again beats Alexanders ass.

A fumble isn't a turnover, unless you turn the ball over. Tiki Barber has 1 turnover, Alexander 0.


LOL! Only among New Jersey fans. Did you watch the ESPN pro bowl special? Alexander is the clear front runner currently. Also, his competition is from QBs, not other RBs, as Alexander is by far having the best season at RB this year.

Only if you take the vote in New Jersey. In the rest of the country, Tiki Barber is lucky to be in the top 5 of MVP candidates. Look at the #s and wins; Alexander is on pace to win the MVP this year. Tiki is having a great year, but not the year Alexander is having. Again, Alexander has more yards, more yards per carry, 3 times as many touchdowns, and less turnovers. Tiki doesn't even belong in the MVP conversation!

Stupid argument since both are really classy guys.

The Seahawks would be 12-2 without Alexander. As mentioned, you take away the games that they played terrible teams, and they are practically a .500 ballclub.

The Giants wouldn't be where they are without Barber.


That said, Manning is clearly the MVP, as he is the anchor for the Colts. Without Manning, the Colts are the baltimore ravens

Oh gee thanks mr. semantics. Fact of the matter is you CANT have a turnover UNLESS you fumble it. Tiki has fumbled it once...Alexander 4 times. Alexander has provided 300% more opportunities for there to be a turnover than Tiki has.

Wrong again. Clearly Tiki is in the lead right now for the MVP and if he has another stellar game against the Skins you can basically give him the award. Alexander has done NOTHING to deserve that award.


Thats a stupid argument. If you look at the numbers then Tom Brady or Carson Palmer should be a lock to get it. If it was just about numbers then only offensive players would get it. Fact is its more than just about numbers it about how valuable you are to your team and what your team has done because of it. As Brandow pointed out the Seahawks are a 500 ball club when they play good teams. Fact is they have beat up on the Rams, Cardinals and the Niners all year long. They would've been 6-0 against those teams anyway. Other than TD's and fumbles Tiki is even with Alexander in every other category. The difference is that Tiki has carried his team while Alexander has just beat up on a lot of poor teams.

Thats almost as crazy as saying that Tiki has more "turnovers" than Alexander when Alexander has 3 more fumbles than tiki does. The Ravens? You do realize how bad the Ravens are?

Maurice Morris has looked good at times, but no, Seattle would not be anywhere near 12-2 without Alexander.

You're right theyd be 11-3 because Feely would make one of those FGs with another try.

It was unanimous on ESPN, Alexander is the front runner, Tiki is barely in the top 5. I tivoed the show, I can quote them if you want. Tiki is only the favorite in New Jersey, land of Giants homers. In the rest of the world, Alexander, Palmer, Manning, and James are getting more MVP consideration. Heck, Brady might have knocked Barber out of the top 5 of MVP candidates.

You are on crack. Want to bet an avatar?

Or Shaun Alexander. Alexander's is putting up some serious numbers and winning; that's why he is the MVP front runner right now.

That's pretty much how it works now. You have to go back 19 years for a defensive player winning the MVP.


Less yards, less yards per carry, shorter runs, etc. Sorry, Barber isn't on the same planet as Alexander this year, but you are a New Jersey homer, and don't understand.

Sorry it was unanimous on ESPN radio that Tiki Barber is the frontrunner for the reasons stated. Fact of the matter is even with the Seahawks leading the conference NO ONE thinks they are the favorite to make it to the Super Bowl cuz they quite frankly have made it through the seaosn playing a college type schedule with a bunch of cupcakes.

He's putting up serious numbers against a lot of bad teams in games where the Seahawks would win with their backups.

again if everything was based on numbers then it would just be between Brady and Palmer. Peyton wouldnt even be mentioned. Of course I wouldnt expect you to know what MVP means.
Again not true. Barber has somewhere up to 300 yards more than Alexander does. The yards per carry is nearly identical and Barber blows Alexander in receiving yards. Youre right Barber isn't on the same planet because Barber is on a different level. He helps the Giants in both the pass game and run game and against good teams with something on the line. Alexander just bowls over poor defenses...wow!