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Old 01-17-2006, 06:18 AM   #1
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With the 32nd selection in the 2006 Draft the Steelers select...
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Old 01-18-2006, 12:28 AM   #2
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I dont think the steelers are going to be drafting in this slot. Not cause they dont win or get to the super bowl bt because they know they will have to move up and get a decent running back out, someone who fits the mold of a jeromne better than willie.
Look I like willie and think he keeps getting better and better every week but lets face it, who sacred opposing defenses more, willie with his speed or jeromne who would just smash you in the kisser 20 times for 15 yards in the first three quarters only then to rack you 50 yards and two td's on 5 carries in the 4th.
Ask that overtrated, double murderer in Baltimore if he would rather chase down willie or have to take on the blocks of krider only to then have to tackle Jerome.
If i were the Steelers Im on the horn right now trying to get into the top ten. Last, and only time we traded up in the 1st round worked out pretty good, Troy P.
Get Lendale White. He is going to be the best Back to come out of the Overrated Condom University. He proved that to me when he was able to run between the tackles omething Bush won't do unless he is playing that feared defense from fresno st. he racked up nearly 100 and 3 td's against two texas DT's who will probably go by the end of round 2 if not the first round. I say they make a trade with Baltimore and move up to get him, giving Baltimore a chance to get another QB that Dickface will be way too high on, See Omar Jacobs.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:39 AM   #3
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Yo Irishmafia,
You shanty or lace? Either way, your take on what the Steelers need to continue the "smash mouth" tradition is dead nuts on. You have concisely captured the essence of why the Steelers are 30 and 6 over the past two seasons. Willie is one "what are you lookin' at?" away from joining Ray in a police line-up. Oh, we need Willie's speed at RB no doubt. But the guy at the top of my List is White, he's a stud and he had two less yards than Reggie over the last two years. The only way to get him is to move up, Mel the Moron has White @ 17 going to the Vikes. We're gonna need a real wide out, not another converted college QB and some help at the corners also. I'm workin on some trade ideas and gonna put up my picks this weekend.
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:55 AM   #4
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The Other areas I think the steelers need help in are as follow by importance:
1. Pass Rushing LB/DE - Porter seems to have lost a step or two, love the guy but give me someone who reminds me of him 4 years ago and it's game over. Over course Harrison has played like a man beast when he gets on the field.
2. Center - Hartings is 34 and hasnt played as well as he has in years past. Someone younger in the middle to control the Nose Guard in the 3-4, which has fallen back in favor with people is a must need, to clear room for LenDale White next year.
3. DT to groom for when Kimo eventually does call it quits. This guy keeps playing at such a high level for 12 years. arron smith is good, but I think an Upgrade to the D-Line would be looked upon favorly by an steeler fan.
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Old 01-19-2006, 01:03 AM   #5
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I think I posted something similar in a different thread, but since the Steel looks to be out of the 1st round RB sweepstakes (unless Maroney miraculously falls), I think a solid young #2 WR is a necessity to complement Hines and open the middle for Heath Miller. I was looking at Santonio Holmes due to his Ward-like downfield run blocking, but he'll be long gone by the end of round 1. I don't know if Dwayne Jarrett from the condom University has declared or not, but I know hometown product Greg Lee from Pitt has.. he'd fit the bill. I agree with the need for a power guy to help spell Willie at RB, and depth on both lines but the Steelers are traditionally good at solid picks in the middle rounds for those areas.

I highly doubt they'll trade up for a runner. The only reason they did that for Troy P. was that whoever was at #17 stated they were taking him, and Indy was also ahead of them that year and selected the #2 ranked Safety (Mike Doss) I don't know that they would have the fodder to move up that far at any rate. But yes, boil it all down and Lendale White is assuredly the best fit for Pittsburgh... he would make the Heinz fans moist, for sure.
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Hometown boy Antonio Bryant (Pitt) might fit that bill as well. He's an unrestricted free agent from the Browns. They's have to teach him how to block, but he is a very good talent.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:56 PM   #7
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We need a wide out. Antwan Randle El is a free agent and I not too sure the Steelers are gonna re-sign him.
Hagan?
Chad Jackson?
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:59 PM   #8
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Hagan "probably" wont fall that far, although he had some miscues during Senior bowl week.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:18 PM   #9
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Hagan "probably" wont fall that far, although he had some miscues during Senior bowl week.
yeah, I little wishful thinking about Hagan. I can see him going in the mid 20's though. Jackson might make it that far but I don't have much on him.
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:43 AM   #10
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Potential Free-agent losses:
Kimo Von Oelhoffen, DE
Deshae Townsend, CB
Chris Hope, FS
Vernon Hayes, RB
Antwaan Randle El, WR
Jermae Tuman, TE
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Don't rule out the dark horse in the wideout mix. Martin Nance and Big Ben were college teammates who hooked up for 1,490 yards during Ben's last year in college, and he's got the kind of size (6-4, 210) the Steelers missed when they let Plax go. Depending on how he does in the combine, Nance could go as early as the first round in a year in which the WR pool is as weak as I can remember.
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Old 02-07-2006, 04:06 PM   #12
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Don't rule out the dark horse in the wideout mix. Martin Nance and Big Ben were college teammates who hooked up for 1,490 yards during Ben's last year in college, and he's got the kind of size (6-4, 210) the Steelers missed when they let Plax go. Depending on how he does in the combine, Nance could go as early as the first round in a year in which the WR pool is as weak as I can remember.
Interesting. I'm gonna have to look into this cat. I totally missed him. Thanks
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:11 PM   #13
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I think the steelers will be able to resign Randle and Chris Hope. These are the two guys we need to resign above all else. Chris is the most pressing need. He is a hammer in the secondary and with the improivement of the young DB's we have (Taylor, Collough and McFadden) we are set if he comes back. Lets face facts with Randle. I like the guy alot. In fact I think I have torn my ACL three times this year just watching him, but i dont think he is going to be as great in another system. We need to get a Running Back in the draft. If the steelers can get a RB, and he has to be a game changer like white, then they could be on the verge of a dynasty likke the early 70's. The core group of players they have are all under 25.
From some of the other mock drafts I have seen have White going anywhere from 10 - 17. If the rumors are true Arizona fills RB need with Edge. St Louis is set a RB. Clevelkand and Baltimore ould go RB more worried about Cleveland than Ravens, but brownies need help on Defense. I have heard rumors of a possible Ricky for TO trade which would elimante Philly frm RB slot. Of course they have westbrook and Good looking Moats in the backfield. At 15 and 16 Falcons and Fins are pretty set at RB and would probably go Defense (CB) and QB in that order. Minney is hard to get a read on at 17. They have 4 RB's and I think 1 or 2 are Free Agents.
After Minney the next possible landing spot for White is #21 New england but they could also use help in the secondary.
After NE #26 and 27 is a scary spot because Carolina and Jax's could both use a RB like white though Jacksonville does have Greg Jones, but he is more of a blocker/golaline runner.
If Indy does loss Edge like they will and white falls to them Indy will take him at #30.
The Best bet for the Steelers is to move up to #10 in a trade with arizona.
heres the scearnio.
Arizona Locks up the Edge and has a solid if not scary offense with him and their WR's. They need help on Defense and could pry the 32 and steelers second rounder for a chance to move up.

Even if the steelers get White next year will be damn near impossible to repeat.

besides the AFC North, They have the AFC west:
KC Diego and broncos and Oakland. (1 playoff and 2 that should have been in the playoffs)
The NFC South: Tampa and Carolina Playoff teams along with Atlanta and overrated Vick and the Aints.

Thrown in the Colts and the Pats and you have one of the toughest schedules I have seen in many a moon.
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Interesting. I'm gonna have to look into this cat. I totally missed him. Thanks
Martin Nance

2006 NFL Draft Prospect


Position: Wide Receiver

School: Miami (OH)
Status: Junior
Height: 6-5
Weight: 210
40-Yard Dash: 4.50 (EST)
Positives:
Ideal combination of size and speed, Martin Nance has a tall frame with good hands. He is a precise route runner and always a big play threat downfield. Nance is an amazing athlete with great ability to make the catch in traffic. He has a lot of potential that has yet to be utilized.
Negatives:
Nance has yet to be truly effective without Ben Roethlisberger at the helm. He is coming off a torn ACL injury that kept him out all of 2004. Nance has decent speed, but doesn’t have a good burst off the line and won’t be able to fake out many NFL defenders.
Overview:
Martin Nance looked like a first-round prospect his sophomore year, but because of injury and offensive woes for Miami of Ohio, Nance’s stock has fallen quite a bit. He has all the skills that can’t be taught such as size and speed, but needs to get a better grasp on the intangibles of the position. With the right coaching, Nance could become a very effective receiver at the next level.
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As someone who actually watched Nance play and understands the numbers, some of the above statements are ignorant. Though the Miami (OH) offense declined somewhat after Roethlisberger went to the NFL, it was still one of the Top 15 passing offenses in the country in both 2004 and 2005.

Also, Nance's senior-year numbers weren't far off his sophomore year numbers, when you figure that he played three fewer games. He surpassed 1,100 yards and ranked third nationally with 14 TD catches as a senior, while splitting attention with a teammate, Ryne Robinson, who also topped 1,100 yards receiving and who will be getting NFL looks next year. I think that's being pretty effective. For those concerned about the level of competition he faced, he grabbed nine passes and topped 100 yards in the season opener against Ohio State.

The biggest knock on Nance is that he had drop issues at times, which leads some to say he disappears from games. But when the chips were down in the second half and the QB needed a WR to lean on, Nance caught everything in sight. His speed is deceptive, as he's a strider whose running looks effortless, but his size is for real and he showed his toughness on the inside slants he ran with effectiveness all year. Remember, he's only 16 months off an ACL tear, so his speed is still coming back.

While his offensive coordinator also coached TO, he's the anti-TO in terms of character.

I think he's got as much or more upside than any wide receiver in the draft this year, but the combine will decide where he goes. If he can catch everything that's thrown at him and show the 4.5 speed that he's shown in the the past, he'll be a big climber on the draft board. I've got to think Roethlisberger is pushing for him.
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This guy can play period, it seems. Not having seen him live, but with everything I've read, I wouldn't be afraid to select him in the first round. His speed numbers at the combine probably will push him above 32nd.
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i did my research

WR:Santonio Holmes
Derek Hagan
Johanathan Orr
Mike Hass
Demetrius Williams

OLB:Bobby Carpenter

DE: Mathias Kiwanuka
Tamba Hali


Some of these guys may be gone by the time u draft superdave. but i put all the guys that would fit with them just in case.
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:39 PM   #18
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That' pretty good kid, all very popular picks. Find me a sleeper, tell me why you think we should select him. Something to pull out of our sleeves
in the third or fourth round.
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man how much did u pay mike for me?
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I didn't want ta hurt your fellings but...Mike paid me. He threw in two free weeks of premium membershit at mudbog.net, too.
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