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Old 03-22-2006, 01:18 PM   #1
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Okay folks, we need everyone's attention

This is how we do it. We will keep this thread to show our group majority picks for each team. I will then start a thread for each pick. You have two days to get in and give your opinion on who should be drafted and why. Or, if you have a trade option...give it to us. I will only post trades that have the team traded with and what compensation was. Otherwise, we go with a player for that pick.

Example:
2006 draft pick #1: Houston on the clock

You then say...: I suggest we take Reggie bush since he is the god of rbs and will drive them to .....

Or
We suggest the following trade: Houston trades the #1 pick to Denver for their two first round picks this year.

Again, anyone and everyone is allowed to voice their opinion. Once the two day period is over(or less or more depending on discussion... ) we place the consensus pick here!

Lets Draft!
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:33 PM   #2
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Round 1
1.01 - Houston Texans - Reggie Bush Rb USC
1.02 - New Orleans Saints - Trade to Jets for 1.04 and 1.29 - Jets take Matt Leinart Qb USC
1.03 - Tennessee Titans - Vince Young QB Texas
1.04 - New York Jets -Trade to Saints for 1.02 - Saints take D'Brickshaw Ferguson OT Virginia
1.05 - Green Bay Packers - Mario Williams DE North Carolina State
1.06 - San Francisco 49ers - A. J. Hawk LB Ohio State
1.07 - Oakland Raiders - Haloti Ngata DT Oregon
1.08 - Bufallo Bills - Winston Justice OT USC
1.09 - Detroit Lions - Michael Huff S Texas
1.10 - Arizona Cardinals - Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt
1.11 - St. Louis Rams - Vernon Davis TE Maryland
1.12 - Cleveland Browns - Broderick Bunkley DT Florida State
1.13 - Baltimore Ravens - Marcus McNeil OT Auburn
1.14 - Philadelphia Eagles - Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State
1.15 - Denver Broncos** - Chad Jackson WR Florida
1.16 - Miami Dolphins - Ernie Sims LB Florida State
1.17 - Minnesota Vikings - Chad Greenway LB Iowa
1.18 - Dallas Cowboys - Jason Allen S Tennessee
1.19 - San Diego Chargers - Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech
1.20 - Kansas City Chiefs - Tye Hill CB Clemson
1.21 - New England Patriots - DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis
1.22 - *San Francisco 49ers*** - Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
1.23 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Manny Lawson DE/LB North Carolina State
1.24 - Cincinnati Bengals
1.25 - New York Giants
1.26 - Chicago Bears
1.27 - Carolina Panthers
1.28 - Jacksonville jaguars
1.29 - New York Jets**
1.30 - Indianapolis Colts
1.31 - Seattle Seahawks
1.32 - Pittsburgh Steelers
* gotten by trade
** in trade with Atlanta for Abraham from the Jets.
***in trade with Denver for thier 2nd and 3rd round picks in 2006.

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Old 04-16-2006, 12:17 PM   #3
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I think the Saints will take Williams unless Texas passes on Bush
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:59 AM   #4
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Just FYI -
There are only 12 days left until the draft with 19 teams still to go. I suggest that we lower it from 24 hours to ensure that it is complete prior to April 29th.
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Old 04-17-2006, 12:37 PM   #5
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3. Marcus McNeill - OT - Auburn
Massive senior tackle is one of the most disputed prospects in this class. He had a fine career in the SEC manning the left tackle position. As with many tall offensive linemen, he needs to improve his leverage and knee bend. In addition, his needs strength improvement to maximize his size. He may have to move to right tackle as a pro. These liabilities have probably cost him a first-round grade. His lack of overall strength made him susceptible to power players - and the inside move in particular. He probably goes in the second round after an average postseason.


2nd Round talent drafted at 13?

Sorry but this pick is flawed....

The Ravens are one of the few teams that NEVER reach.....
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Old 04-17-2006, 12:52 PM   #6
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I think Many people are way underestimating the talent of McNeil. Just a couple months ago, he was being touted as the #2 OT behind D'Brick (and this was from many large websites). Some even said he may be better in the NFL than D'Brick.

I really dont understand why his value dropped so quickly. Give me a choice between him and Justice, I take McNeil everyday and twice on Sunday.
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3. Marcus McNeill - OT - Auburn
... As with many tall offensive linemen, he needs to improve his leverage and knee bend. In addition, his needs strength improvement to maximize his size. He may have to move to right tackle as a pro. These liabilities have probably cost him a first-round grade. His lack of overall strength made him susceptible to power players - and the inside move in particular.
No team spends a top 15 pick on a RT....
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I dont know why not. Dallas was assisted to 3 Superbowls thanks to one very dominate Right Tackle.
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I'm with you there, Beermutts. No way they take this guy at this point.
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Old 04-17-2006, 01:31 PM   #10
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I dont know why not. Dallas was assisted to 3 Superbowls thanks to one very dominate Right Tackle.
Name and where drafted?
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Wasnt drafted in the top 15, but in that day and age, drafting an offensive lineman period in the first round was not normal.
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thats my point. Drafting a RT in the top 15, one with strength issues, is not the norm either.
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thats my point. Drafting a RT in the top 15, one with strength issues, is not the norm either.
Nor was a LT back then. Offensive linemen get taken earlier and earlier these days. The story early on with McNeil was that he would be able to easily play either side.
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3. Marcus McNeill - OT - Auburn
Massive senior tackle is one of the most disputed prospects in this class. He had a fine career in the SEC manning the left tackle position. As with many tall offensive linemen, he needs to improve his leverage and knee bend. In addition, his needs strength improvement to maximize his size. He may have to move to right tackle as a pro. These liabilities have probably cost him a first-round grade. His lack of overall strength made him susceptible to power players - and the inside move in particular. He probably goes in the second round after an average postseason.


2nd Round talent drafted at 13?

Sorry but this pick is flawed....

The Ravens are one of the few teams that NEVER reach.....
First and foremost, I seriously doubt how close we can get in a public vote kind of mock here. We are taking many opinions. However, considering there is a definate need at OT here. I still think it is a solid pick.


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Run blocking:
Lightning speed allows him to easily reach the linebacker level. Shows athleticism and great bulk. Takes good angles to his man; can completely overpower defenders. Must improve footwork and technique; occasionally lunges. Grade: 7.2.
Pass blocking: Exhibits great knee bend in pass protection. Rarely gets caught off-balance. Has long arms and adjusts well in open field. Gets set quickly and then uses size and bulk to force defenders wide. Makes full use of strong hands. Needs to polish technique; sometimes plays too upright. Grade: 7.5.
Initial quickness: Is athletic and quick. Sets very quickly and shows great range. Must keep weight in check to prevent sluggish and inconsistent play. Grade: 7.4.
Strength: Has a tall, impressive frame. Shows the lower-body strength to drive on run blocks. Uses strength and bulk to anchor well against bull rushes. Has powerful hands and rarely loses when locked on. Grade: 7.4.
Mobility: Is an exceptional athlete with great speed for his size. Shows nice footwork with room to improve. Recovers quickly and can handle double moves. Works to get into linebackers. Weight and conditioning can slow him late in games. Grade: 7.5. Bottom line: A starter since the middle of his freshman season, McNeill is an experienced and gifted athlete. There is some concern over a medical condition with his back, but it appears he has been cleared to everyone's satisfaction. If he continues to control his weight and overcomes concerns about his level of intensity, McNeill may be drafted as high as mid-to-late Round 1.

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Is a huge man who didn't help himself much as a senior. Started poorly, but came on late. Is a durability concern. Is a strong run blocker who can drive back defensive linemen. Is an athletic player who can reach and squash linebackers. Is surprisingly nimble, but loses balance at times. Has trouble with edge speed at times. Plays tall and bends too much at his waist. Struggles to combat pass rushers’ counter moves. Fails to sustain blocks. Is a little similar to the Eagles’ Tra Thomas.
No. 3 on Pompei's OT rankings
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Just FYI -
There are only 12 days left until the draft with 19 teams still to go. I suggest that we lower it from 24 hours to ensure that it is complete prior to April 29th.
Yeah, I am just trying to wait till there is a clear consensus before I move on. These last few picks have killed us since there is so much differing opinion.
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They aren't going to take a guy that they can get in the 2nd round with their first pick.With Winston and O Callagahan around they can have their choice of a future RT in the 2nd.. Not to mention the FO is happy with the exsisting OL...

Their biggest need is at DL and S
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They aren't going to take a guy that they can get in the 2nd round with their first pick.With Winston and O Callagahan around they can have their choice of a future RT in the 2nd.. Not to mention the FO is happy with the exsisting OL...

Their biggest need is at DL and S
Okay, so you are saying they are a team that does not reach...yet you want me to pick a DL or S....and it is not a reach? Just who would you select here then? Whitner at S...he has been rising...but not this high IMO. DL.....lawson?? My point is...we are constrained by who is already gone, and who is available and popular opinion there of. I just posted that the guy by some experts is NOT a 2nd round pick.
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Is a huge man who didn't help himself much as a senior. Started poorly, but came on late. Is a durability concern. Is a strong run blocker who can drive back defensive linemen. Is an athletic player who can reach and squash linebackers. Is surprisingly nimble, but loses balance at times. Has trouble with edge speed at times. Plays tall and bends too much at his waist. Struggles to combat pass rushers’ counter moves. Fails to sustain blocks. Is a little similar to the Eagles’ Tra Thomas.

Just what they need a OL that can't handle speed, a second move or can't block for longer than 1 sec...

Now way he projects as a LT. The Ravens have to many holes to fill on the defensive side of the ball to take a SUSPECT OL with the 13th overall...
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Is a huge man who didn't help himself much as a senior. Started poorly, but came on late. Is a durability concern. Is a strong run blocker who can drive back defensive linemen. Is an athletic player who can reach and squash linebackers. Is surprisingly nimble, but loses balance at times. Has trouble with edge speed at times. Plays tall and bends too much at his waist. Struggles to combat pass rushers’ counter moves. Fails to sustain blocks. Is a little similar to the Eagles’ Tra Thomas.

Just what they need a OL that can't handle speed, a second move or can't block for longer than 1 sec...

Now way he projects as a LT. The Ravens have to many holes to fill on the defensive side of the ball to take a SUSPECT OL with the 13th overall...
Hmmm, last time I checked..Tra Thomas was a probowl LT. Not to mention Baltimore HAS a probowl LT, but who at RT?? Again, who on DL or S is NOT a reach here?
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This takes me back to Dallas taking Roy Williams super early. It was just unheard of to waste a top pick on a safety.

It is kind of funny, I had to leave here for a little while and was listening to Steve Young on the radio on the Dan Patrick show. It was sort of along these lines. It started off with Leinart and Vince Young. All the talk about Youngs mechanics. Steve said what people dont reaize is Vince brings something to the table that these other QB's don't. That is poise and work ethic. When asked about which positions to look at early in the draft he said positions didnt matter. YOu look for a player that shows work ethic and determination to win. He would rather have someone that has the "want" and "desire" to last 10 years in the league.

McNeil will be very good in the NFL. He played on instinct and his work ethic is very good. All that weight room BS can be fixed in one offseason.
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