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Old 06-01-2006, 12:03 PM   #1
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I'm trying to negotiate a trade Eli Manning for S. Jackson in a keeper league you guys have any thoughts on if that would be fair trade for both teams, or do you think one team will need to give up draft pick(s) to make it fair.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:06 PM   #2
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If I owned Jackson, I would be having to get something in return more than Just Eli Manning. Very nice fantasy quarterback to have, but nowhere near the value of a #1 running back.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:06 PM   #3
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First, moved this into the fantasy advisor forum for you..this is the area for this type of question.

Second, as for value it totally depends on need IMO.

If you have RB depth, and need a QB, and the Eli owner has QB depth and needs a Rb..it think a deal can be worked pretty quickly. It also depends on scoring.

Can you list the rosters..and scoring for the league. My gut tells me, if you have Jackson and want Eli...you may have to throw something extra in...then again, there are some very high on Jackson now..so straight up may be doable.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:11 PM   #4
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WOW, I'm on the other end here. If I owned Jackson, it would take more then Eli Manning for me to get rid of him. Mike hit it on the head. Eli is a very nice fantasy QB, but QB's value are simply not worth what RB's are IMO. Jackson is a young top 10 back, their costs are simply more then a good QB IMO.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:17 PM   #5
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WOW, I'm on the other end here. If I owned Jackson, it would take more then Eli Manning for me to get rid of him. Mike hit it on the head. Eli is a very nice fantasy QB, but QB's value are simply not worth what RB's are IMO. Jackson is a young top 10 back, their costs are simply more then a good QB IMO.
It depends on scoring. If a Qb gets pts for tds(6) and also some type of reward for completions or such...the value is totally different. Plus...some of us are not as high on Jackson as some others...
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:19 PM   #6
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I agree with Phicinfan, not enough info to really tell one way or the other. Both should be long term producers at their position, but until we know needs and scoring, it is very hard to say IMO.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:30 PM   #7
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It depends on scoring. If a Qb gets pts for tds(6) and also some type of reward for completions or such...the value is totally different. Plus...some of us are not as high on Jackson as some others...
Even with 6 pts per TD I can't see him being on equal value to a #1 RB. Even if you rank him as a solid #2 RB, I think your coming out on the short end. The only way Eli's value would be close to Jackson's IMO is if you had to start 2 QB's, which is extremely rare.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:36 PM   #8
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Thanks for the impute this is by far the best FF site I have found.

more details:
I have Eli
and I need a #2 RB

He is stacked with RBs and also has Payton He wants Eli for a #2 QB

I think I will need to give up something to make it happen

Thanks for the replys

No we only start 1 qb 2 rb
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:43 PM   #9
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QBs do get 6 for a TD
and
0+ PaYds = 1 point for every 25 PaYds
Plus a 2 point bonus @ 300+ PaYd
Plus a 3 point bonus @ 400+ PaYd
Plus a 5 point bonus @ 500+ PaYd

and RBs
0+ RuYds = 1 point for every 10 RuYds
Plus a 2 point bonus @ 100+ RuYd
Plus a 3 point bonus @ 150+ RuYd
Plus a 5 point bonus @ 200+ RuYd
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:43 PM   #10
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Just remember that the person seeking the trade wants it to happen more than you, so keep that in mind. Learn to use that edge to your advantage.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:49 PM   #11
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I would definately try it, it could work. If he is loaded at running back, he might take the deal.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:56 PM   #12
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Just stick to your guns for awhile, if he really wants Eli, then the very least that will happen is that it will lessen whatever else you need to give him.
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Cool i'll give it a shot

Thanks for the help
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keep us informed, curious to see what happens in this potential trade.
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Why does he want Eli with Peyton already?

But none the less, try it, if it doesn't work you can always try to throw something else in to get it done.

Who are his other RB's?
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Maybe he is playing in an fantasy football league with Archie, LOL
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:14 PM   #17
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First off, if you want Jackson and are dealing Eli...don't offer anything more. IF he is that high on him as a second QB...I think you can sell him on a straight up.

If it were me...I would be asking him what he will give me with Jackson to get the future #2 QB in fantasy.
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Even with 6 pts per TD I can't see him being on equal value to a #1 RB. Even if you rank him as a solid #2 RB, I think your coming out on the short end. The only way Eli's value would be close to Jackson's IMO is if you had to start 2 QB's, which is extremely rare.
See this is where you and I differ.

If I get a top 2 QB(Eli is possibly there) and other Rbs..say dunn or Davis...I can still beat you. In most leagues I am in, I have won more with a stud QB then with stud rbs. In the past, depth at QB has been better than at rb. I don't feel that is the case any longer. With so many teams going to shared back fields, it is much easier to get some rb depth...but there are only so many very good QBs out there. It is all in how you want to run your team. In a dynasty league..to get a young stud QB I can count on for years...is more important to me..than a rb..cause I can get an rb almost every year in a draft.
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But along that same line Phicinfan, there seem to be stud QB's coming out every year now too.
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