So has Lamont Jordan and others. THEY have more talent, thus they are worth more money.


Gee, a backup to Curtis Martin one of the best rb's in the league. YOU need help. He is rated by most sites I have seen higher as a FA than Rudi.


No, YOU don't read, or don't listen or whatever. I said the Bengals can't afford to pay RUDI top 5 money, since he isn't that type of back. YOU are the one who is suddenly a cap expert. Get over yourself. As I have stated time and time again. I like Rudi, I would like to see him resigned, but not at huge money, not with the FA's available out there.

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Expert on nothing, opinionated on everything...

Wrong you cant say that Jordan has more talent than Rudi when Jordan has never been in a starting role. Sorry you can't.

Thats your problem phic. You rely on "sites" to tell you what to think.
Rudi has shown he is that type of back. You have obviously shown that the Bengals can afford it so there is absolutely no excuse why they shouldnt give Rudi his money.

Why? Cause you say so? Why are experts saying it then? Maybe cause you are an idiot? The ONLY reason Rudi is a starter is due to the OLD starter getting hurt, then being a malcontent. Jordan didn't have that opportunity.



Oh, so now YOU are smarter than the teams or experts? What a jackass!


Sigh, tell me exactly HOW MANY games of the Bengals you have watched. How many? I am telling YOU what THEY are saying. HE is a solid back, but he is not top 10 and he is a liability on third down, due to lack of pass catching ability. IF you want to ignore the facts, do so, but don't waste OUR time with it.

Experts? What experts? OH you mean the dumbasses at that other site? Puhlease. And again you are wrong. Sure Rudi got his start due to Corey being injured but BRady got his start due to Drew being injured. But what happened in both cases? The starter got healthy and couldnt get back on the field because the other guy was playing so good. The only reason Dillon was "malcontent" is because he has been treated badly by the organization. Now they are treating his successor badly and you expect this team to attract free agents? You cant be that stupid even for you.

Well considering that I was right and the Chargers GM was wrong. Considering that I am right and the Bengals GM is wrong...

Oh yeah I guess Jim Brown was a "liability" as well. Get a friggin clue phic. THose guys arent liabilities because WITH them there wont be any 3rd and longs.

Again you are wrong. Dillon was never healthy his last year as a Bengal, even he said so, and he was traded because he was a jackass. Not even close to Brady situation. Plus, when Martin WAS hurt, he never went out, not Jordan's fault. When Jordan played, he busted out. THAT is why he is rated higher.



Ah, the cry of the defeated. You haven't been right yet.



So NOW you are saying Rudi is the NEXT Jim Brown, and you want ME to get a clue

Wrong again. He was healthy enough to play if they needed him but fact is they didnt cuz Rudi was doing more than fine. And again if Jordan is rated high cuz he " busted out" then Rudi should be rated higher and thats a fact.


Ive been right this whole thread.



No I am not but YOU are saying that one dimensional backs LIKE Jim Brown are a liability.

Uh, go back and check the Team web page. You will find you are WRONG again.




No, you haven't.





Jim Brown was NOT one dimensional, and Rudi is NO Jim Brown. You once again made another stupid statement. Suck it up and just admit it.

You are wrong again as usual.


Yes I have


Jim Brown was one dimensional and a moron like you who doesnt know football beleives that he would be a liability. Once again you made a stupid statement that Ive proven you wrong on and now you are trying to adjust it and squirm out of it.

Which means you didn't go and check. Par for the course.




Nope. You have not.




Jim Brown was unstoppable. He could run inside, outside, or through people. He was NOT one dimensional, or is Rudi anywhere NEAR Jim Brown. Once again YOU prove yourself lame, AND wrong.

Yes I have



He was one dimensional. The only reason Jim Brown was "unstoppable" was because he was bigger than everyone else. He was not a slasher. He didn't have tremendous speed. He didn't have great moves. He just ran everyone over. In today's NFL he'd be a bruising back that is one dimensional that according to your scary football logic...is a liability.

No, you have not.





Again, you just proved it was a bad comparison. He WAS dominating and unstoppable. He had something no one else could stop. Now, Rudi IS not, nor is there any other "one dimensional" back with that talent or strength. As such, it WAS a stupid argument. Again. Par for the course.

Yes I have..its a proven fact.


Yes I agree you made a stupid argument. Just because a back is one dimensional, like Jim Brown, doesnt make them a liability.

Nope.




No, again you are wrong. Damn, I am losing count. YOU made a bad comparison. Rudi is NO Jim Brown. Rudi IS one dimensional. He cannot catch worth a damn, not good at picking up the blitz and doesn't have the speed to get outside. IN the Bengals offense that is predicated more on the pass now with Palmer, Chad Johnson and Warrick and maybe Housalphabet, they need a back that can do more. He is NOT worth top 5 money. Experts agree. YOU don't, which shows your LACK of expertise, again.

Stop crying like a baby and take your damn medicine.

Phic is totally right here......I would be more worried about signing TJ (great #2 WR), and upgrading a crap defense. Rudi's been OK, but he does'nt catch the ball at all. He's one of those back's that are a dime a dozen. grab another back in the draft and trade Rudi for a pick that will help the defense. This year's draft is very deep in alot of positions.

Ahem.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2002642

Gee...he IS gonna play, and not hold out....hmm..........

So they get Rudi to sign the tender sheet. They need to show that man the money, albeit not more than $4/year. Heard a rumor that Chris Perry injured himself again this week. Haven't seen any confirmation of that, but if it is true it will reinforce the need to keep Rudi happy. The bungles screwed the pooch by trading down with Denver (?) last year when they were on the board and had Steven Jackson in their lap. SJack was THE stud RB in the draft last year, and the bengals let him flap in the wind b/c they had their eye on Perry. So far, Perry has been an injury nightmare.

Latest word is that Texans LB Jamie Sharper is trying to work out a trade with the Bengals. Must be that horrible ownership that he wants to be under. Couldn't be the fact that the Bengals will finally be over 0.500 next year and will challenge for the AFC North title. No, couldn't be that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2014209

Bengals | R. Johnson Agrees to Five-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:28:21 -0800

Updating ongoing reports, ESPN's John Clayton reports the Cincinnati Bengals and RB Rudi Johnson have agreed to a five-year, $26 million contract. Johnson will receive $12 million in guarantees and $16 million over the first three years of the contract. The deal is structured in such a way that Johnson should be able to make all $26 million since the cap numbers for all five years are fairly equal. In the final year of the contract in 2009, Johnson's cap number is $4.8 million.

Now watch, they will trade him away. Just a feeling, no reason for sure to believe this.