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Old 11-28-2006, 11:44 AM   #1
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I have Peyton Manning @ home against the Titans and Tony Romo on the road against the Giants.

Giants are playing absolutely horrible right now and the Titans played the Colts tough earlier this year, and are looking pretty good right now.

Am I crazy to start Romo? Because that is who I am leaning toward right now.

By the way, this is a dynasty league and I am thinking about trying to trade Peyton Manning.

I have Romo, Rivers, Carr, and Vince Young still if I get rid of Peyton.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:49 PM   #2
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I would see what you can get. your depth is fine at quarterback. Manning might bring you a top receiver and a pick in return.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:59 PM   #3
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You cant trade Peyton, the other thing Peyton brings to the table is you can start him every week as he never gets injured. I would trade some of the others.
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:13 PM   #4
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Stick with Manning.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:15 AM   #5
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I trade Manning and dont even think twice about it.

Call me a homer, but you average Montana's.... um, I mean Romo's stats out over the course of the year, and he is putting up as good or better numbers than Peyton Manning. The guy is a player. Forget the "6'5" laser rocket arm commercial, Romo goes out and plays football.

And forget about the stats for a minute, this kid may have the best pocket presence in the league. This team has mature receivers, as well as some good young receivers coming up, and a defense that is going to keep the offense on the field.

Add in Rivers who is showing to be very similar to the above, Vince Young looking more and more like a future playmaker in this league, and you can easily let Peyton Manning go. Right now, Manning's value isn't going to get any higher, and his production is only going to go down.

Gotta think ahead, rather than the present, otherwise you end up stuck with an aging quarterback on a team that will be salary cap strapped in a year or two.

Don't be afraid to move a stud if you can make your team more balanced and younger.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:20 AM   #6
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I trade Manning and dont even think twice about it.

Call me a homer, but you average Montana's.... um, I mean Romo's stats out over the course of the year, and he is putting up as good or better numbers than Peyton Manning. The guy is a player. Forget the "6'5" laser rocket arm commercial, Romo goes out and plays football. (Kid has yet to play 5 full games, give me a break. He is playing good, but we dont even know if he can last a season yet, let alone multiple seasons.)

And forget about the stats for a minute, this kid may have the best pocket presence in the league. This team has mature receivers, (MATURE????, Owens is mature, oh right. And Glenn is definitely mature if you are talking about age) as well as some good young receivers coming up, and a defense that is going to keep the offense on the field.

Add in Rivers who is showing to be very similar to the above, Vince Young looking more and more like a future playmaker in this league, and you can easily let Peyton Manning go. Right now, Manning's value isn't going to get any higher, and his production is only going to go down.

Gotta think ahead, rather than the present, otherwise you end up stuck with an aging quarterback on a team that will be salary cap strapped in a year or two. (An aging QB, who still has about 4-5 top years left in him, and who is on the field week in and week out and is always at the top of the QB numbers at the end of a season, sorry dont buy this crap)

Don't be afraid to move a stud if you can make your team more balanced and younger.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:32 AM   #7
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Marvin Harrison - Like it or not, believe it or not, this guy has lost a step. He has struggled to produce in big games, and the tide has turned toward Reggie Wayne. By next season, teams will be able to safely cover this guy with one defender, putting more pressure on Wayne.

Two weeks in a row now, the Colts have had to rely on their running game to have a chance and Harrison has not been the clutch receiver that Manning has always depended on. Harrison had 94 yards against Dallas, but the turnovers came on his side of the field as he was easily out battled for some balls, just like last week against Philly when a defender once again just took the ball from him.

Manning has always had an arsenal of receivers to throw to. This isn't going to last. The Colts will not be able to replace Marvin Harrison unless they get very lucky in the draft. Even then, a new receiver is a 2-3 year project.

Free Agency - The Colts could go the free agent route, which means they spend a ton of money on a receiver, while something more important like the offensive line suffers.

Not questioning Manning's ability at all, but the team simply cannot keep the talent around him to perform at the level Peyton Manning owners expect. Manning's success over the next few years are going to have to be centered more around a running game, not a ton of receivers.

Things are changing in Indianapolis, no need to wait for it to happen.
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romo has been awesome... for 5 games. manning has been awesome for a decade. the reason mannings worth as much as he is in fantasy football is that, while every QB can have hot streaks or even good seasons, hes a top 3 guy every single year without question, and he starts every single week. you simply dont trade him in fantasy football, unless of course youre getting LT or LJ.

if you were making a top 10 rankings for QB right now, for next season, where would romo be? im guessing in the 5-10 range, maybe. youre going to put him behind both mannings, palmer, mcnabb, brees, vick depending on the scoring, and perhaps a couple others. and where would peyton be? right up top at #1, the same place hes been for the last decade.

keep him.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:43 AM   #9
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You would be making a point if this was a discussion of trading quarterback for quarterback.

But if you can still get good production from your current quarterbacks, why not make a move with your stud to bring in a top receiver and a good draft pick?

Overall, you are improving your team rather than just letting talent sit on your bench and do absolutely nothing.

As for putting Romo behind both Mannings, not so sure about that. I will easily put him behind Peyton, but Eli? Romo is only 5 touchdowns behind Eli right now, while Eli is 10 interceptions ahead. (and this is after Romo getting thrown in during the second half of a game completely unprepared and with no NFL game experience. )

If Romo can't get it done, you still got Rivers, and as much as I hate the guy, David Carr. Also have a prospect in Vince Young.
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So you trade some of these prospects for some talent. There are plenty of players out there that like Vincew Young already and Rivers is quickly making a good name for himself, or better yet trade Romo now while his value is sky high. It can only go down from here.

Also, lets not forget that Romo scored 5.34 pts (using Zealots scoring) two weeks ago against Indy, so whiule he has played great, he has already had a single digit game. Peyton hasnt had one of those since the end of last season when he was not playing.

I would not trade Peyton, unless like Bomb says, you can get LT or LJ back.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:59 AM   #11
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You are gonna have those games from time to time. Peyton Manning had 3 of them last year in games that matter to fantasy football.

I guess it all boils down to philosophy and what you think Manning will be over the next couple years. I guess I just don't think he will be as good as most think he will.
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You are gonna have those games from time to time. Peyton Manning had 3 of them last year in games that matter to fantasy football.

I guess it all boils down to philosophy and what you think Manning will be over the next couple years. I guess I just don't think he will be as good as most think he will.
Actually he had two and one of them was in week 2, granted the other was in week 16, but that is why you keep a good quality backup. Week 17 doesnt count in any of my fantasy leagues.

The other thing Manning allows you to do is to only hold two QB's and deal the rest. No reason to hold 4 or 5 with him on your team.
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Dont forget Week 3 7 points.
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this is something i was reading and thought i would share with you!

Tony Romo/Terrell Owens/Terry Glenn/Jason Witten (vs. NYG)
Similar passing attacks that have faced the Giants this season: Cowboys
FF Points Allowed vs. similar QBs: 16
FF Points Allowed vs. similar WRs: 32.8
FF Points Allowed vs. similar TEs: 8.8
FF Points Allowed vs. QBs/WRs/TEs over the last 3 weeks: 23.9/23.9/7.3
Notes: Romo has probably reached must-start status unless you are already playing a top 5-6 QB like Brees or Palmer already. While a repeat of last Thursday’s 40+ point performance is highly unlikely, he may be in line for 2-3 scores if CB Sam Madison and DE Osi Umenyiora cannot return in time for this game. The return of the first two players would greatly solidify this unit. Since Romo became the starter, Owens has returned to elite status and he figures to abuse this defensive backfield again if it is minus Madison. Glenn is an average play at best despite his 2 scores last week. Witten should be one of the better TE plays this week, but that will depend a lot on how many Giants defensive starters return. (Translation: a healthy Giants defense will force Romo to make more short throws, thus more work for Witten.) Be safe and expect roughly about 50-60 yards from him.


Peyton Manning/Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne/Ben Utecht (vs. TEN)
Similar passing attacks that have faced the Titans this season: Colts
FF Points Allowed vs. similar QBs: 17.4
FF Points Allowed vs. similar WRs: 23
FF Points Allowed vs. similar TEs: 1.5
FF Points Allowed vs. QBs/WRs over the last 3 weeks: 17.7/20.9/7
Notes: Colts RBs accounted for 40 touches in their first meeting. Don’t look for things to change all that much this time around. Despite Addai’s 4 TD outburst last week, the Titans would just as soon die a slow death than to get picked apart by the passing game. Nevertheless, Manning is going to find his one of his WRs in the end zone at least once and I like that one to be Harrison this week. He has scored a TD in his last four games vs. the Titans and doesn’t usually have consecutive bad games. Wayne, as usual, remains a very consistent play. Utecht has been getting some attention lately but it is hard to plug him into your starting lineup with any real expectations yet. Dallas Clark does not figure to play anytime soon with what is being diagnosed as an ACL sprain.

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this is something i was reading and thought i would share with you!

Tony Romo/Terrell Owens/Terry Glenn/Jason Witten (vs. NYG)
Similar passing attacks that have faced the Giants this season: Cowboys
FF Points Allowed vs. similar QBs: 16
FF Points Allowed vs. similar WRs: 32.8
FF Points Allowed vs. similar TEs: 8.8
FF Points Allowed vs. QBs/WRs/TEs over the last 3 weeks: 23.9/23.9/7.3
Notes: Romo has probably reached must-start status unless you are already playing a top 5-6 QB like Brees or Palmer already. While a repeat of last Thursday’s 40+ point performance is highly unlikely, he may be in line for 2-3 scores if CB Sam Madison and DE Osi Umenyiora cannot return in time for this game. The return of the first two players would greatly solidify this unit. Since Romo became the starter, Owens has returned to elite status and he figures to abuse this defensive backfield again if it is minus Madison. Glenn is an average play at best despite his 2 scores last week. Witten should be one of the better TE plays this week, but that will depend a lot on how many Giants defensive starters return. (Translation: a healthy Giants defense will force Romo to make more short throws, thus more work for Witten.) Be safe and expect roughly about 50-60 yards from him.


Peyton Manning/Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne/Ben Utecht (vs. TEN)
Similar passing attacks that have faced the Titans this season: Colts
FF Points Allowed vs. similar QBs: 17.4
FF Points Allowed vs. similar WRs: 23
FF Points Allowed vs. similar TEs: 1.5
FF Points Allowed vs. QBs/WRs over the last 3 weeks: 17.7/20.9/7
Notes: Colts RBs accounted for 40 touches in their first meeting. Don’t look for things to change all that much this time around. Despite Addai’s 4 TD outburst last week, the Titans would just as soon die a slow death than to get picked apart by the passing game. Nevertheless, Manning is going to find his one of his WRs in the end zone at least once and I like that one to be Harrison this week. He has scored a TD in his last four games vs. the Titans and doesn’t usually have consecutive bad games. Wayne, as usual, remains a very consistent play. Utecht has been getting some attention lately but it is hard to plug him into your starting lineup with any real expectations yet. Dallas Clark does not figure to play anytime soon with what is being diagnosed as an ACL sprain.


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i just want to know ho you got both of them, whats the rest of your team look like?
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