Let's Debate: Top 5 Heaveyweights

Miller · 06-07-2009, 06:07 PM

I think it is UFC 102, Randy Couture and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira square off. IMO the winner stays in the elite class and the loser becomes an after thought.

Sgt John · 06-07-2009, 06:34 PM

Id almost have to go with Couture.

Miller · 06-07-2009, 06:42 PM

really? I think Nog has just a little more left than Randy.

Sgt John · 06-07-2009, 10:01 PM

I dont know.....I think its personally its two Marshall Faulks at the end of prime careers waiting to be jackhammered by Jarod Mayo at the other end of the hole you know...

Nog lacks the brutal power Couture succumbed to from Lesnar. I think in a battle of the elderly, Couture has a better skill set.

German CTL · 06-08-2009, 05:03 PM

This is based purely on who I think would win H2H at this point.

1. Fedor - No doubt about it.
2. Josh Barnett - Barnett and Lesnar are a toss up to me, could go either way.
3. Brock Lesnar - His 1st fight w/ Mir got derailed by a questionable ref call, he was well on his way to victory before that. He gets the nod over Mir.
4. Frank Mir - Not quite sure if he could beat Randy but he looked good against an ancient Nogueria in his last fight.
5. Randy Couture - He's still pretty damn good. Was even with Lesnar before getting caught on the wrong end of a fist the size of a watermelon.

Honorable mentions go to - Alistair Overeem, Shane Carwin and Cheick Kongo.

Nogueria doesn't make my list. He was great for along time but his body is done IMO. He needs to retire after he fights Randy. A fight that I think Randy will win.

Miller · 06-08-2009, 06:52 PM

What's with the barnett love? I do not know much about Overeem, but I do think your other two honorable mentions will smoke Barnett! Fedor will eat him alive.....

Maybe a few years ago, but now i just don't see where Barnett is a top 5 HW, let along #2..... That is why these threads are good, love the different views.

German CTL · 06-08-2009, 07:55 PM

Haha...I figured I'd get a reaction out of you if I had Barnett @ #2.

But honestly, I think Barnett is a great fighter. He's battled with the best of them and won more often than not. His ground game is great, his striking is good enough to beat an inexperienced Lesnar and he's a big boy (250+)

It would be a hell of a fight IMO.

Miller · 06-08-2009, 07:58 PM

well he gets his shot to prove it against Fedor....

German CTL · 06-08-2009, 07:59 PM

Why can't all of the organizations just get along dammit?!? There are so many great fights to be made out there!

Yeah, I know, its all about lining the execs./fighters pockets before providing the fans with the best possible matchups...but make the best fights happen!!!

Sgt John · 06-10-2009, 05:45 PM

Hell yeah! Wishful thinking but Hell yeah.

06-08-2009, 07:55 PM	Top #17
German CTL Circle City Outlaw Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,525	Haha...I figured I'd get a reaction out of you if I had Barnett @ #2. But honestly, I think Barnett is a great fighter. He's battled with the best of them and won more often than not. His ground game is great, his striking is good enough to beat an inexperienced Lesnar and he's a big boy (250+) It would be a hell of a fight IMO. Last edited by German CTL; 06-08-2009 at 08:12 PM.

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06-07-2009, 06:07 PM	Top #11
Miller "Child, please." Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 27,008	I think it is UFC 102, Randy Couture and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira square off. IMO the winner stays in the elite class and the loser becomes an after thought.

06-07-2009, 06:34 PM	Top #12
Sgt John Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thorndale, TX Posts: 17,555	Id almost have to go with Couture.

06-07-2009, 06:42 PM	Top #13
Miller "Child, please." Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 27,008	really? I think Nog has just a little more left than Randy.

06-07-2009, 10:01 PM	Top #14
Sgt John Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thorndale, TX Posts: 17,555	I dont know.....I think its personally its two Marshall Faulks at the end of prime careers waiting to be jackhammered by Jarod Mayo at the other end of the hole you know... Nog lacks the brutal power Couture succumbed to from Lesnar. I think in a battle of the elderly, Couture has a better skill set.

06-08-2009, 05:03 PM	Top #15
German CTL Circle City Outlaw Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,525	This is based purely on who I think would win H2H at this point. 1. Fedor - No doubt about it. 2. Josh Barnett - Barnett and Lesnar are a toss up to me, could go either way. 3. Brock Lesnar - His 1st fight w/ Mir got derailed by a questionable ref call, he was well on his way to victory before that. He gets the nod over Mir. 4. Frank Mir - Not quite sure if he could beat Randy but he looked good against an ancient Nogueria in his last fight. 5. Randy Couture - He's still pretty damn good. Was even with Lesnar before getting caught on the wrong end of a fist the size of a watermelon. Honorable mentions go to - Alistair Overeem, Shane Carwin and Cheick Kongo. Nogueria doesn't make my list. He was great for along time but his body is done IMO. He needs to retire after he fights Randy. A fight that I think Randy will win.

06-08-2009, 06:52 PM	Top #16
Miller "Child, please." Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 27,008	What's with the barnett love? I do not know much about Overeem, but I do think your other two honorable mentions will smoke Barnett! Fedor will eat him alive..... Maybe a few years ago, but now i just don't see where Barnett is a top 5 HW, let along #2..... That is why these threads are good, love the different views.

06-08-2009, 07:58 PM	Top #18
Miller "Child, please." Admin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 27,008	well he gets his shot to prove it against Fedor....

06-08-2009, 07:59 PM	Top #19
German CTL Circle City Outlaw Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,525	Why can't all of the organizations just get along dammit?!? There are so many great fights to be made out there! Yeah, I know, its all about lining the execs./fighters pockets before providing the fans with the best possible matchups...but make the best fights happen!!!

06-10-2009, 05:45 PM	Top #20
Sgt John Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Premium Member Forum Leader Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thorndale, TX Posts: 17,555	Hell yeah! Wishful thinking but Hell yeah.