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Old 04-13-2008, 12:40 PM   #1
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Most miserable sports cities

It looks like they take all sports into consideration.

America's Most Miserable Sports Cities - Forbes.com


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Old 04-13-2008, 01:13 PM   #2
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See some good sports cities on that crappy list. What about places like New Orleans, L.A., K.C., Cincy, Tampa....
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Old 04-13-2008, 06:40 PM   #3
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See some good sports cities on that crappy list. What about places like New Orleans, L.A., K.C., Cincy, Tampa....
That would be #1 on my list.
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:26 PM   #4
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That would be #1 on my list.
Who needs the haterade now?

For what they are looking at for that list Cincy is actually saved by the Reds Championships in the 70's.

Can't say I would have argued with them being someone on the list though.
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:07 PM   #5
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Who needs the haterade now?

For what they are looking at for that list Cincy is actually saved by the Reds Championships in the 70's.

Can't say I would have argued with them being someone on the list though.
If thats the case why is Atlanta on the list they won a WS more recently the Cincy. And the Seahawks are always in the playoffs.
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:47 PM   #6
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b/c Atlanta only has 1 and has disappointed many times. Hell Denver is on there and they have 2 SB's, but the 4 losses hurt them. The Reds on the other hand have 5 WS Championships.

Hey, I didn't make the list, just trying to interpret how they come up with some of them. They took into consideration all sports and all times. Recent championships didn't seem to overcome multiple previous failures and near misses.
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in first place, Cleveland......

in second place...........Cleveland........any questions?
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:01 AM   #8
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A couple things about Seattle.

Yes, the Seahawks are always in the playoffs. But they're in the NFC West. Case closed.

The Mariners get to the playoffs only when they have an incredible season (by their standards) and they STILL only manage to win the wild card. And, without fail, they choke once they have to play a decent team, no matter how many times they beat them in the regular season. They can't play under pressure.

The Sonics.... I'm not going to go there. At one time, they had Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Detlef Schrempf, and Nate McMillan, and they STILL couldn't win the ONE championship they made it to. Granted, they lost to Jordan and the Bulls, but still....

Don't think this makes me any less of a fan.
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:09 AM   #9
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100+ seasons without a championship? Welcome to Philadelphia.

Where the four major sports teams have gone without a championship for over 25 years and the main team that everyone cares about hasn't won since the 1959 season - preceding the Super Bowl era.
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:12 AM   #10
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I think they should make a more modern list--i.e. stats from the last 30 years or so. But very interesting, nonetheless
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:53 AM   #11
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A couple things about Seattle.

Yes, the Seahawks are always in the playoffs. But they're in the NFC West. Case closed.

The Mariners get to the playoffs only when they have an incredible season (by their standards) and they STILL only manage to win the wild card. And, without fail, they choke once they have to play a decent team, no matter how many times they beat them in the regular season. They can't play under pressure.

The Sonics.... I'm not going to go there. At one time, they had Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Detlef Schrempf, and Nate McMillan, and they STILL couldn't win the ONE championship they made it to. Granted, they lost to Jordan and the Bulls, but still....

Don't think this makes me any less of a fan.
And the Sonics might be leaving.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:55 AM   #12
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Dallas, Austin (no major sports of course), and San Antonio have faired well.

I believe the Stars won a Stanley Cup not that long ago, and the Cowboys have won a few straps. The Spurs have won a few titles, Austin has faired well:

Austin Toros (NBA D League) one of the best minor league teams and in the playoffs
Round Rock Express (Houston Asstros AAA Affiliate) won a couple AA titles
Texas Longhorns (2005 Big 12 and National Championship)(2007 Big 12 Reg Season Basketball Championship).


So what about Houston? The Asstros broke hearts. The Rockets picked up a couple titles like 10 years ago. The Texans have failed to produce (yet), The Oilers never won a championship then moved away. That kinda counts dont it?
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And the Sonics are leaving.
fixed.
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:25 PM   #14
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Seattle Seahawks won Super Bowl XL.

Seattle Storm won the 2004 WNBA championship.

1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics were world champs.

Seattle Slew the only undefeated triple crown winner...ok, I know it's only Seattle by name, but still...it should count. LOL


Los Angeles without an nfl team...shameful.
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Seattle Seahawks won Super Bowl XL.
You're one of those Seattle fans?
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You're one of those Seattle fans?
Nope...just an impartial, objective fan of the game.
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I have to whole heartedly disagree with Atlanta being number 1 on this list. Atl is a baseball town, always has been and alwaays will be. The other pro teams are complete after thoughts. And few can argue that the Braves are one of the worst franchises in baseball. Their fans are die hard fans.

When I think worst sports cities, I think the fans, and the top 2 that come to my mind are Seattle and Houston. both fan bases show up when teams are winning, but they are a no show when their teams are down. the Rockets won 22 straight and the fans started showing up. They lost to Boston and the fans quit coming. It's the same way in Houston. No one showed up during the Astros World Series run until they actually got their. Houston was a die hard football city until the Oilers left. That was their team. Maybe the fans felt betrayed and will no longer invest themselves into a team.

Seattle fans couldn't care less about their pro teams. People go to the football games because they win more often then not. Seattle fans care when they expect to win champiosnhips and that's it.

We need more San Antonio's. They only have a the Spurs, but they sell out whether their winning or losing. They have always been that way.

Third on that list is Philly. I don't think I really need to justify that point.
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FYI

The Spurs a combined record of 115-215 from 1985-86 until 1988-89, the losing seasons and dwindling attendance often caused the Spurs to be mentioned as a potential candidate for relocation to another city.
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