See I don't know much about Pink Floyd I thought the song was Shine on crazy diamond. The start is a long guitar piece then it goes into the song. Right?

Just about every song off of Wish You Were Here is good. I prefer it to Dark Side myself. Have a cigar:

Shine On You Crazy Diamond is actually 9 pieces but broken down into 2 tracks. Track 1(parts1-5) is typically the more popular of the 2 tracks and is the one you are referring to.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this band. I would have been devastated if I wouldn't have gotten Dark Side in the draft.

The British invade the First Fantasy Album/CD Draft.

This basically says it all. I have my music broken into two categories. The Beatles, and all other music. I keep them separated.

It is odd that you mention all of the other stuff, but still feel they are overrated. That is a hard thing to sell after you mention the other stuff. "Few People", "Every Person", and "Every Music Columnist", "They changed Music "& "Hard to argue"(your words)

Wow, Pink Floyd going fast!

As far as The Beatles go. RC, it is for all those reasons that I mentioned that they are overrated. Everyone sings their praises nonstop about how amazing they are. I just don't see it.
Judging by our fantasy draft so far, Floyd kicks Beatles ass.

There is one thing you fail to see imo ER. No Beatles No Floyd.

Abbey Road (album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Great cover. During the McCartney is dead talk this cover was tore apart for these clues. John Lennon dressed all in white, like a clergyman. Ringo Starr wore a black suit as an undertaker would. Paul's eyes are shut, he is not wearing shoes and is holding a cigarette in his right hand, even though he is left handed, and walked out of step with the other Beatles. George Harrison's denim outfit resembled that of a gravedigger.
The plate on the Volkswagon reads, L M W B 28 IF. Leonard McCartney Would Be IF. His mother affectionately called him Leonard.

On the otherside you see "Beatles Abbey Road" There are cracks between the e and the a in Beatles, and another between the t and the l. Be At les Abbey, a cemetary in London. The blue hazy figure of a lady was the lady that he was looking at when he had his accident. "He didn't notice that the lights had changed" (he was staring at her) "Lovely Rita Meter Maid) I could go on for hours on this stuff but it is time for bed.

The list of Pink Floyd albums recorded at Abbey Road Studios includes

• The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967)
• A Saucerful of Secrets (1968)
• Ummagumma (1969)
• Atom Heart Mother (1970)
• Meddle (1971)
• The Dark Side of the Moon (1972 - 1973)
• Wish You Were Here (1975)

The band did not use Abbey Road Studios again until the mixing sessions of the double live album Delicate Sound of Thunder (1988) and some overdubs for The Division Bell (1994).

Oh goodness. Are we going to start this now. No Beatles no anything. Blah blah blah. Does that make them a better band?
Who are the Beatles influences? Without those bands do we have the Beatles? Does that make them better bands?
Hell take it one step further. Adolph Rickenbacker. Before you ask, he invented the electric guitar. Without him we have no Beatles. All hail Adolph Rickenbacker!!

ER, have you listened to Abbey Road? Not in pieces, but in whole?

You left out Ben Franklin, Jesus and Charlton Heston.

Oh yes. My father is a big Beatles fan. I grew up on it. It's not that I don't appreciate it, it's just that I think it's over glorified.
In my opinion Pink Floyd's 3rd best album, The Wall, is better than any of the Beatles albums. There I said. Crucify me now.

I don't. They were great in two different phases. I don't like their early work too much, but love their later stuff. It's tough for bands to be good for a few albums let alone thier whole career. Take away the two Floyd albums drafted and they are Blue Oyster Cult. BTW, the other PF album you mentioned is one of the most overrated albums around.

Abbey Road is my favorite Beatles album. Listen to side two uninterupted if you haven't heard it. Great pick!

Another album off of my list. This is way more brutal than the movie draft.

Wow. That is a strong statement. Likening Pink Floyd to BOC. Ouch Town Population Pink Floyd.
I can see where people feel that The Wall is overrated. It has their worst single ever in Another Brick In The Wall. That song is so overplayed and synonymous with the album that it can give it a bad rep.
However, many people don't truly understand this album. They hear it in tracks and overlook the story it tells as a whole. Yes there are some good songs on here but when it all comes together it is great. I have been listening to this album my whole life and it wasn't until a few years ago that it all really clicked when I read the biography of the band. This isn't just a collection of great songs, it's a story.
If you think Floyd doesn't have any other good work outside of the 3 big name albums then I'm sorry for you. Hell, The Division Bell is better than anything BOC did and PF was without Roger Waters incredible lyrics on this one.

Damn RC! It was tough to choose btw The White Album (The Beatles) and Abbey Road... but I at least I got the double album!!! LOL

My fave is Dear Prudence, actually (especially with the lead-in from Back in the U.S.S.R.).

Not gonna join in on the overrated discussion (or maybe I am?) My comment, ER, is that "overrated" seems to be your favorite word (The Simpsons?). in the words of one of my favorite movies, "I do not think that word means what you think it means" since you keep saying that you value their contributions etc. etc. How can you overrate a band that changed music so drastically? Maybe you should just say that you don't get them the way some others seem to--kind of like me and Led Zeppelin. I like Led Zeppelin, but it's not on my list of top tens. That doesn't mean it's not a great band, or that I dislike the music, just that it's not my thing.

I like Pink Floyd as well, btw, but that doesn't take anything away from the Beatles.

Just out of my own tastes, here is how I rate PF vs. Beatles:

1). Floyd - Wish You Were Here
2). Beatles - Abbey Road
3). Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
3). undrafted Beatles album
4). Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonley Hearts Club Band
5). undrafted Beatles album
6). Beatles - White Album
7). undrafted Floyd album
8). undrafted Beatles album
9). undrafted Beatles album
10). undrafted Beatles album
11). undrafted Floyd album
12). undrafted Beatles album
13), undrafted Floyd album

no more Floyd.

EC You're overrated. Take it as a compliment.
JK. Im probably wrong on this one but Im stubborn and dumb as a bull so I can't change my opinionated view.

I LOVE Pink Floyd. They are my favorite band and Dark Side of the Moon is my favorite album of all time. I picked Wish You Were Here because it's my 2nd favorite Floyd album.

And for the Beatles. I'm very happy that you guys came out and said it, because everyone that I know just about crucified me when I said this: The Beatles are the most overrated rock band, ever. I will admit, they have some songs that are good, some good albums even, but I'm sorry, they do not impress me that much.

Now to say that the Beatles were not an influence on Pink Floyd would probably be a lie. I'm sure that the Beatles were, but I'm not sure it was that big of an influence. The Beatles first recording as a band (Lennon, McCartney, Harrison and Starr) was in 1960. Their first album was not until November 1962. Their success was primarily because teenage girls went psycho over them. They were Pop stars.

Two years later, Pink Floyd was officially born from a previous band that included Roger Waters. When Syd Barrett joined, they were The Pink Floyd. Now, for years - between 1964 and 1967, Pink Floyd was around as an underground band. If I had to describe them, I'd say they were the Nirvana of their age (or perhaps the other way around). The differences between Pink Floyd and the Beatles at the time was shockingly not that vast. Their sounds were similar, but Floyd's sound was called a "psychedelic rock." They used electric sounds and emulators that had never been used before and only just becoming available. The band even toured with Jimmi Hendrix, to give you an idea of the style they had. Syd Barrett was pretty much a nut case as well. He was the bands leader pretty much. He wrote virtually all of their music but he wouldn't stop using LSD and because of his mental issues he was replaced by guitarist and vocalist, David Gilmour. Any form of inspiration that the Beatles had on Pink Floyd died when Gilmour joined the band, IMO.

Released in 1967, Piper at the Gates of Dawn was Pink Floyd's first studio album. It is highly regarded as one of the most influential albums ever. It had weird sounds, psychedelic melodies, and lyrics about gnomes, and space and other odd things. This is however the first and only album by Pink Floyd that was recoded under the leadership of Syd Barrett.

In 1968 Pink Floyd released the album, A Saucerful of Secrets that showcased a song entitled, Ummagumma (which is British slang for sexual intercourse). This was the first real track that showed where the band was going. It was a long, 12 minute song that had weird sounds found throughout.

Then, a year later, Floyd released the album, Ummagumma (AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING ALBUM! I CONSIDER THIS ALBUM MORE INFLUENTIAL TO MUSIC THAN ANY BEATLES ALBUM) If you have never heard the song "Astronomy Domine," do the world a favor and listen to it. David Gilmour began to come into his own here. This is the first song that he really showed why he is now considered one of the best guitarists of all time. From now on, their albums had long solos from the guitar, percussion, bass, keyboard with breathtaking sounds from fully staffed orchestras.

In 1970 they released, Atom Heart Mother. This album was ok. Good songs, just not as thrilling as their other albums. In 1971 the band released Meddle. This was wildly considered their best album post-Barrett. What was interesting about Meddle was that the first side had five tracks that seemed almost to be a tribute to the bands previous sounds. Each song seemed to evolve in the way it was heard and then, there was side two. Side two had one song, Echoes. It was a 23 minute song, that is mind blowing. The moment you hear Echoes, you'll think you're listening to their next album because it sounds strikingly the same as all the tracks on Dark Side of the Moon. This was the first song that everyone got a taste of before Pink Floyd made it real big. It was a few years later that Dark Side of the Moon came out. This was the band's masterpiece and probably the best album the band has ever released. The sounds, the solos the vocals, the lyrics themselves just come alive when you're listening to them. A truly, epic, revolutionary and legendary work of art.

In 1975 Pink Floyd released Wish You Were Here. In the tracks "Welcome to the Machine," and "Have a Cigar" the band began to give a hint to the sounds that would come up in their next two albums. In 1977 Floyd released Animals. This album included two love songs written by Waters but was primarily the band's first real jab at politics. They used animals to symbolize figures, such as the people are all sheep, and the business men and people in power were dogs herding the people. Also, the leaders were the pigs. It pretty much voiced Water's feelings on the flaws of capitalism.

1979 - The Wall. This is probably, IMO, the bands 3rd or 4th best album. It became pretty popular, but it's concept is amazing. The idea behind the Wall began when Waters was performing and a fan tried to climb over a netting that separated the band and the audience. Waters spit in the fan's face and he then thought of the invisible wall between him and the world. The Wall starts by following the life of a man named, Pink. He looses his father in WW2 at a young age, his mother is terribly over-protective and his school teacher is abusive. All of these things are considered "bricks" in his life and he begins making a wall of self-seclusion around himself. Isolating his mind from the world. Pink ends up becoming a rock star and during one of his concerts he becomes so isolated that the wall is finished. In his mind he becomes a "Hitler" in front of the crowd of people, ordering the death of his fans that he doesn't see fit to live in his walled in world. He then halucinates a court room where he is judged and sentenced to tear down the wall. This is the album's end and it runs right back into the first track. The album ends with "Isn't this where..." and in the begining of the entire album, the first song, "In the Flesh," starts out with the words, "...we came in?" The interesting thing is that the first track is nothing more than a continuation of the last song. So in a since, the album is never ending.

In the final month of 1982, The Final Cut was released. This album is one of my least favorites because of the disconnect that it represents. Keyboardist, Rick Wright is not on this album because Roger Waters kicked him out of the band during the recording of The Wall. This album is reportidly also disliked by all of the band members, save Waters. He wrote ever song on the album and the entire recording was done under tension between Waters and the rest of the band. The back of the album even goes to read: The Final Cut: A Requiem for the Post-War Dream - by Roger Waters, performed by Pink Floyd This album was just that, a protest against war.

Pink Floyd released A Momentary Lapse of Reason in 1987. This was the first album released by the band after Roger Waters left. He even declared Pink Floyd dead, but Gilmour and Mason decided to continue with the band, asking Rick Wright to rejoin. The three remaining members made an excellent album here. It was very good, better than The Final Cut I believe, but still missing Roger Waters.

The Division Bell was the last recorded Pink Floyd album. It was released in 1994 and again Roger Waters was not on the album. I think this is their best album since Wish You Were Here. They went back to their 70's roots on this album. From Animals to A Momentary Lapse of Reason, the band took a very harsh, lyric based, gritty sounding turn. The Division Bell once again had the trippy sounds and the psychedelic melodies found on the Meddle.

Many of Pink Floyd's later songs were about Syd Barrett. He was a great friend to all of them and they loved him very much. Songs such as "Brain Damage," and "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" were actually about Barrett. Also, the entire album Wish You Were Here was a direct reference to Barrett. It's also said that Dark Side of the Moon was a showcase of Barretts declining mental health.

And OMG, without even really realizing it I went through all of their albums. I'm sorry.