Out of this entire thread, this is the comment that makes me laugh! Monk? Are you kidding me? Saw one draft ranking that had him as the 27th WR in this draft. Kid is slow, and will likely be in the 4.6 range from what is looks like. And your trying to sell me that he would have been a 2nd last year??

If that's the case, he should have came out last year, he may be lucky to get drafted at all.

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draft evaluations are generally a 3 years process, unless you are David Carr, then you get a decade of failure, LOL.

I don't think we have seen the last of Jarrett by any means.

True, but I think it's safe to say now he was not the most "NFL READY" player on those USC teams. That was easily decided this year. Kid has a TON to learn and was no where ready for the NFL.

I still disagree here.

HE was a can't miss prospect labeled by you and some others. Well deserving a first round draft pick. According to you and others...first rounders should be up and playing first year. So by a purist definition...he has already busted.

However, that being said I don't think the door is totally closed. With a better Qb this year, and more work on his part...he could still turn this around.

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Jarrett wasn't drafted in the first round, he was a 2nd round pick.
Something else to look at, Steve Smith. The Panthers crappy passing game this year dropped Steve Smith from a top 3 fantasy receiver to barely in the top 20. The offense was absolutely horrible, and there was no decent quarterback throwing the ball at any point in the season.

John Fox says that Jarrett had trouble learning the playbook. Maybe he did, or maybe the coach was making the ill advised move of putting blame off on players. Maybe it is a little of both. Maybe there is some friction between player and coach. If he truly had trouble digesting the playbook, that might be due to immaturity. I have heard that said about many players though who have become stars in this league.

Not sure about you guys, but I don't see many Panthers games, and given that Jarrett was active in very few of the games, I seen a very, very limited amount of playing time from the guy. Definitely not enough playing time for me to declare someone a bust or a success, especially a 2nd rounder, and especially in this dysfunctional offense.

I agree it's too early to call anyone a bust, but back to my point, if your not active for most of the regular season, and only catch 6 balls all year on a "dysfunctional" offense, your not the most NFL ready player on your college team when you go to USC, that, has been proven.

One season means nothing...he was in John Fox's doghouse for a while as well....we will see next season

Exactly.

None of us really know the actual reasons why, other than what John Fox, who was trying to save his job, said. The friction between these two could have been the main reason Jarrett wasn't getting on the field rather than his lack of understanding of the game.

That's why I say it is a 3 year process.

Look at Calvin Johnson. The consensus best receiver taken in the draft by 99% of the fans out here, and a large majority predict him to be the best receiver drafted in the past 10-15 years, and to take it even further, many expected him to be the top receiver on the team.

He ended up 4th on the team in receptions, and while the numbers weren't bad, where would they have been on an incompetent offense like Carolina?

It takes time in most cases.

Back to Jarrett though. There is another guy playing for the Panthers, DeAngelo Williams who can't seem to get on the field on a full time basis, even though he is killing Deshaun Foster's stats whenever he does get on the field.

Also, look at the quarterback situation. The Panthers have a good quarterback in Delhomme, yet they weren't satisfied with the situation, Delhomme ended up in the dog house last year, and the team brings in none other than David Carr to possibly replace him.

Maybe we need to be calling John Fox a bust, if we're going to call anybody a bust on this team right now. For some reason, promising players repeatedly underperform when they arrive on this roster from college.

Of course there's little nugget

Inside the Panthers: Smith has message for rookie

That right there is something I don't think Steve Smith should have done. Regardless what is going on behind the scenes, I don't think you do that to a teammate, especially a rookie.

You do that one on one, in team meetings, but not in the presence of the media.

Probably did, with limited results. For all we know this was an evolution from the private subtle approach. Seems like a few of these USC guys lately have developed a rep of not putting full effort into their pro careers.

True point about USC players, but as for Steve Smith, the guy's mouth never stops moving. I just think you gotta keep that stuff behind closed doors, especially with a rookie.

IF...he was being held back..fine. But from the report Orgazmo showed...and others I have seen, it was his own lack of effort that has held him back.

Now this argument I can agree with. I too am totally baffled by the lack of playing time for DeAngelo. I too call Fox on the floor here and wonder where his head is...especially with the Carr signing.

Still, you heard it here again..........Jarrett sucks.

LOL

He is no Drew Stanton, thats for sure.

BTW....look at braylon edwards/roddy white(with no qb)....not saying Jarret is White or Edwards, but many recievers peak in year 3......

Anyway why are you hating so much? How will this argument effect your life?

First, Roddy White is the exception, not the rule. While it is common that after 3 years most wrs pick things up and explode...not after NEVER getting on the friggen field.
Braylon did fairly well before this year...granted much, much better this year...but then again...he was hurt also.

As for hating..it isn't hate. I am merely refreshing the memories of some here...who were so OVER on Jarrett, including some who felt he was either the best or next to best...well, lets just say that view was incorrect. At least so far.

Why not look at the ones that were correct?

Because I was not against those...this particular discussion I was very clear on my point of view on this player.

Perhaps you might want to read the thread???

No, you are digging up the one stance you were so outspoken on

As for correct or incorrect, I think it has to be one or the other, there can't really be a so far, which is why you gotta give these guys some time in the league.

Hell, David Carr got 5 years in the league, and going into this year, there were still those saying he was good, and those saying he was going to be better than Delhomme in Carolina.